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From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN"
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You are so right !Its very boreing in Canberra
Gavin
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> > Must have been snowing on Mt hutt today, surely.
> > Cheers
> > Steven Williams
> > Auckland
>
> TV1 weather mentioned snow being down to about 800 metres on Mt Hutt and
> around Queenstown, and I saw the alps this afternoon with a fresh coating
> (somewhat more than a light dusting) this afternoon. Could be a little
more
> later this week and weekend with a strong disturbed west to southwest flow
> likely over NZ; this might also bring gales to the southern coasts - watch
> out Dunedin. All thanks to a high which will probably be stationary over
> southeast Oz. (there'll probably be complaints about how boring the
weather
> is over there soon)
>
> Ben
> Christchurch
> NZ
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From: "Simon Angell"
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 01:33:58 +1000
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Hi les,
I use the weather.com ( www.weather.com )email service that emails 2 daily 5
day forecast for me (except weekends)... It is pretty accurate in Weather
conditions but temps are slightly out some times, but that is to be expected
with a us based forecaster, it has the forecast for the today and the next 4
days in the Celcius form, then a small description of what to expect however
this bit comes in the US temp form and not the Metric standard
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From: "Leslie Muir"
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Subject: aus-wx: E-mailing the weather
> Does anyone know a website or server or something of that nature that
> e-mails you the weather in the morning or the day before?
> Thanks in Advance
>
> Les
> (Dilbert)
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From: "Simon Angell"
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Forecaster's Perspective - storm report 12/4/2002
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 01:27:21 +1000
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I agree matt, fantastic read... More Svr-Wx BoM people shoud do this kind of
thing...
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From: "Matthew Smith"
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Forecaster's Perspective - storm report 12/4/2002
>
> Nice stuff Jane! Thanks for putting it up on MSC. Tell Kevin that all of
us on
> aussie-weather appreciate it, and would love to read more in the future :)
>
> Matt Smith
> sydneystormchasers.com
>
> Jane ONeill wrote:
>
> > Evening all,
> >
> > Kevin Parkyn from BoM Severe Weather in Melbourne has put together the
> > following analysis & report on the severe multicell in the SW district
> > of Victoria on the 12th April. This is a unique look at a forecaster's
> > perspective of a severe weather event.
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/12_04_02kp.htm
> >
> > Enjoy!!
> >
> > Jane
> >
> > --------------------------------
> > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> >
> > Melbourne Storm Chasers
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> >
> > ASWA - Victoria
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "Simon Angell"
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: F5 Tornado rakes Maryland
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 01:57:40 +1000
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Thanx pauly for going to the trouble of getting these links....its now cost
me an hour that i could have been doing some work on my website, lol.:P
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From: "Paul Yole"
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Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:23 PM
Subject: aus-wx: F5 Tornado rakes Maryland
> Hey All,
>
> Well, I guess Matt dobbed me in on this one...LOL. But doing some
research, and I've found the following links regarding this
> amazing outbreak.
>
> The NWS posted this on their IWIN website:
> http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/md/public.html
>
> PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
> NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE/WASHINGTON
> 415 PM EDT MON APR 29 2002
>
> ...CHARLES COUNTY TORNADO NOW RATED AN F-5 ON THE FUJITA SCALE...
>
> ...LA PLATA TORNADO BECOMES THE STRONGEST TORNADO EVER RECORDED
> IN MARYLAND...
>
> A STORM SURVEY TEAM FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IS CURRENTLY
> SURVEYING TORNADO DAMAGE IN CHARLES COUNTY.
>
> SURVEY RESULTS INDICATE THE TORNADO WAS AN F-5 ON THE FUJITA
> SCALE. WIND SPEEDS IN THIS TORNADO HAVE BEEN ESTIMATED TO BE
> GREATER THAN 260 MPH. THIS IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT AT LEAST 6
> HOMES WERE COMPLETELY WIPED OFF THEIR FOUNDATION IN CHARLES COUNTY
> WITH 3 OF THESE HOMES JUST EAST OF LA PLATA.
>
> THIS IS THE STRONGEST TORNADO EVER RECORDED IN MARYLAND.
>
> THE TORNADO PATH LENGTH WAS 24 MILES IN CHARLES COUNTY AND AT LEAST
> 6 MILES INTO CALVERT COUNTY. THE TORNADO WIDTH WAS 400 YARDS. THE
> TORNADO TOUCHED TOWN BETWEEN RISEN AND MARBURY AS AN F-2 THEN
> STRENGTHENED TO AN F-4 AS IT WENT THROUGH LA PLATA. THE TORNADO
> THEN STRENGTHENED TO AN F-5 ON THE EAST SIDE OF LA PLATA. THE
> TORNADO WAS AT LEAST F-4 STRENGTH AS IT MOVED TO BENEDICT IN CHARLES
> COUNTY. THE TORNADO THEN TRACKED INTO CALVERT COUNTY.
>
> THERE ARE 3 CONFIRMED DEATHS AND OVER 90 INJURIES.
>
> Other sites with information and stuff are the following:
>
> WUSA (Washington DC) News' report (A beautiful pic of the tornado under
the RFB and some amazing damage pics))
> http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_article.asp?storyid=5935
>
> WUSA also has a report by Howard Bernstein and how it reminded him of the
College Park tornado of 7 months ago
> http://www.wusatv9.com/weather/weather_article.asp?storyid=5952
>
> CNN's report (Has some video, but CNN now want you to subscribe to watch
it :o( )
> http://www.cnn.com/2002/WEATHER/04/29/storm.deaths/index.html
>
> USA Today's report (With video)
> http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2002/2002-04-29-mdf5tornado.htm
>
> LA Times report
>
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-000030686apr30.story?coll=
la%2Dheadlines%2Dnation
>
> Images of the tornados (Check out the "Twins"!!!!!)
> http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/lwx/publicpix/
>
> The NewsOK.Com report (Oklahoma)
> http://newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=854707&pic=none&TP=getarticle
>
> NOAA's report on this event. Has some amazing damage pics (Not from the
F5, but I think an F2 in KY), as well as an amazing sat
> animation in either avi or mpg format (Look at the cell develop 2 states
away!!!!!)
> http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories/s896.htm
>
> PaulY
>
> Paul Yole
> Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA
> Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA
> Cell Phone#: (040) 081-9519
> http://www.lexicon.net/yolestorm/
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From: "Dave Ellem"
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Subject: aus-wx: Offtopic: Mass Histeria!! Need Music From Singing In The Rain!!!!!
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:20:48 +1000
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Hi Everyone!
Sorry for the offtopic post, but I have an assessment task in 2 days on acid
rain (I have to do a speech). I thought it would be a great into to the
speech if I had the music from singing in the rain playing in the background
whilst I come in with a raincoat on and the music suddenly coming to a halt
once I mentioned acid rain!! Problem is that I can't find anyone that has
the CD!!!! I've tried everywhere!! If anyone has the CD could they convert
it to a wav file and send it too me. I probably only need the intro (ie
frist 30secs of the song). I am in great need of this right away!!! If
anyone could send me the file tonight or tomorrow privately to
stormboy2003 at hotmail.com at the latest I would be in debt to them forever =)
Thanks again and sorry for the rather offtopic post!!
Dave Ellem
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From: "Les Crossan"
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Subject: aus-wx: uk.sci weather thread on 'Mini-Tornados'
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From: "Simon Angell"
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 04:54:10 +1000
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Having a look at SPC again this morning, AGAIN
4.5inch hail was reported on th 29-4-02 this time
TIME | SIZE |
LOCATION |
COUNTY | STATE | LAT | LONG | COMMENTS
0133
275 5 W
WEATHERFORD PARKER
TX 3276 9789
REPORTED BY
STORM SPOTTER.
(FTW)
0134
300 5 S
BRIDGEPORT WISE
TX 3313 9776
REPORTED BY
STORM SPOTTER.
(FTW)
0153
450
DECATUR WISE
TX 3323
9760 REPORTED BY HAM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into
lake
> Hi Tom and John, > > From the type of storms they
have over there I do not doubt the existence > of sigificant giant
hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring several times each > season
particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not doubting though > that
there could be at least some slight exaggeration in recording simply > by
the rounding off of hailsize to the nearest 0.5 inch. But let's say >
there was significant hail sizes reported and therefore they do exist and
> they are not so uncommon. My belief is that since supercells are more
> common in the US due to the higher frequencies of wind shear and high
cape > conditions, then significant hail should occur more
regularly. > > Of course, any particular area being hit by the hail
swathe is a much > smaller probability but if we go by counties, then
probabilities increase. > I also do not doubt that such giant hail events
do occur in particular > areas of Australia - some are more prone than
others. The area SW of Camden > near Oakdale receives severe hail at a
higher frequency than other > surrounding areas such as Sydney. SW and
Central parts of Sydney also seems > to have had more of the frequent
hail events than say the region I live and > surrounds. It is extremely
rare for supercell type of events to affect my > area but the region in
SW and Central Sydney is more prone to such events > in my view based on
the proximity to topographic effects such as the region > near Oakdale
and just to the west. > > On a similar note and getting back to the
US, I was quite interested in > reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's
web site about storm chasers' > beliefs that the panhandle region has a
higher density of tornadoes than > the statistical analyses suggest
(Oklahoma City as the epicentre). Well the > tornado we got last year is
officially recorded as F3 based on damage to > one building and 2 cars
picked up and thrown across the 4 lane highway (the > one we were
travelling on). I do believe the tornado was stronger than this > simply
by the shear size, structure and significant rotation of the collar >
cloud. So this is only one suspect example of many in a relatively sparsely
> populated area of the US. > > Interesting
discussion. > > At 11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000, you wrote: >
>Hi Tom. > > > >That I believe may be the case, and I had
serious doubts about a report of > >4.5" hail in Denver county
Colorado, which caused $0 damage. Denver county > >is very small,
just 150 odd sq kms and almost entirely built up, so you > >would
expect hail that size to do significant damage, as per the famous >
>Sydney hailstorm. > > > >But Jimmy provided this excellent
link, > >http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm which shows some nice
photos of 2.5" > >and genuine 3" hail, judged by using a ruler on my
hand as compared to the > >photos. But there is no claim in this
article made about the size of > >specific hailstones shown in the
pics, so it is hard to say if there is any > >exaggeration or
not. > > > >I have witnessed hail of this size in SEQ on
several occasions (no storm > >chasing), but would have to say that for
any particular location (street) > >around Brisbane it would be an
approx 1 in 25 year event. > > > >Regards, > >John
W. > > >snip > >-----Original Message----- >
>From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On
Behalf Of Tom Johnstone > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15
AM > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake >
> > > > >At 01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell
wrote: > > >I Just had a quick look over SPC and on the 24-4-02
there was 4.5inch hail > > >reported, thats
11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Now I'm not saying that those reports are
untrue (and they might have been > >properly verified, I don't know).
But in my time in the USA I have noticed > >a cultural difference
between here and Australia. Whereas Aussies tend to > >understate many
things, here in the USA people like to exaggerate - and > >they
do it a lot. So unless 4.5 inches was verified, I would have some >
>doubts. > > > >Cheers, > >Tom >
> > >
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----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm
Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields,
Sydney > NSW Australia > >
e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath >
> Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather
Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >
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From: Michael Bath
Subject: Re: aus-wx: What Weather Station?
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Paul,
I have not used any other type of electronic weather station, so can't
really compare. The price has always put me off those.
I find the sensors on the WM-918 quite accurate. I have a BoM rain gauge
for my "proper" readings and the weather station always has similar
figures. I also have a thermometer in a stevenson screen and again, the
weather station temps are similar. It all depends on where you place the
sensors - I know my weather station temps are not as accurate when there is
no wind (the sensor is not in the screen as it is too far away from my PC),
and the anemometer is not giving accurate readings when a southerly is
blowing - because there are lots of trees to the south.
The station is very good value for $300 or even $400 !
Michael
At 07:35 PM 30/4/2002 +0930, you wrote:
>Michael,
>
>I've just got myself a WM-918 today (also for $298) - yet to set it up,
>still reading the idiot's.. er.. "User Manual".
>How have u found it's preformance? Do u think it's as good as the more
>expensive stations?
>
>& thanks for the link! :))
>
>Regs. Paul.
>(Stargazer)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Bath"
>To:
>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:54 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: What Weather Station?
>
>
> > It is not worth it. I have seen the software and it is not as good as Andy
> > Keir's FreeWx:
> >
> > http://home.iprimus.com.au/andykeir/freewx.html
> >
> > I have used this program for a couple of months on my webcam page with the
> > DSE WM-918 station (which they had on special leading up to Christmas for
>$298)
> >
> > Michael
>
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From: David Jones
To: "old AUSSIE WX (aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com)"
Subject: aus-wx: DSW WM-918
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>I have used this program for a couple of months on my webcam page with the
>DSE WM-918 station (which they had on special leading up to Christmas for
>$298)
>
>Michael
I must admit to having come a tad late into this discussion... thanks to
work... but note that the review of this station is not good. See
http://www.weatherwatchers.org/wxstation/WX-200/review/
I have, for a while, been thinking about installing a WX station to
compliment my manual observations, and was also thinking around the ~$500
mark. Have users of this station found it to be nearly as bad as this review
would have one believe? Or are the reviewers merely gear snobs.
Regards,
David
Dr David Jones
Climate Analysis Section
National Climate Centre
Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678
GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861
Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923
email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au
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Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 07:11:51 +0800
From: "Phil Smith"
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Subject: aus-wx: This is true for all of us! (was F5 Tornado rakes Maryland)
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It's not only Paul Y's links, it's everybody's links on this list.
They "waste" hours and hours of my time!
... wouldn't have it any other way, though.
Phil
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From: "Simon Angell"
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 01:57:40 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: F5 Tornado rakes Maryland
> Thanx pauly for going to the trouble of getting these links....its now
> cost
> me an hour that i could have been doing some work on my website, lol.:P
>
> Cheers
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Hi David,
Check my post earlier today about the accuracy. I rarely look at the
pressure readings so can't comment on those, but rain rates, temp and
humidity seem accurate.
Cables could be longer but it all seems to work.
MB
At 08:29 AM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> >I have used this program for a couple of months on my webcam page with the
> >DSE WM-918 station (which they had on special leading up to Christmas for
> >$298)
> >
> >Michael
>
>I must admit to having come a tad late into this discussion... thanks to
>work... but note that the review of this station is not good. See
>
>http://www.weatherwatchers.org/wxstation/WX-200/review/
>
>I have, for a while, been thinking about installing a WX station to
>compliment my manual observations, and was also thinking around the ~$500
>mark. Have users of this station found it to be nearly as bad as this review
>would have one believe? Or are the reviewers merely gear snobs.
>
>Regards,
>
>David
>
>Dr David Jones
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:48:50 +1000
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Hello David.
I like your description of gear snobs!, I have a Davis weather wizard 3
which is basic and you have to add a tipping bucket rain gauge at extra
cost, the anemometer is very good and the temp (outside) is reasonably
accurate, the rain gauge is a different story which came with instructions
on how to calibrate it, which I suspect were wrong, I eventually calibrated
the rain gauge myself to get it as close as possible to my manual rain
gauge, its working ok now except when the maggie poo blocks up the rain
catch, the maggies also peck at the wind cups ( I am now on the second set).
A rather good weather station though is the Davis weather monitor 2 although
getting a bit expensive when buying it with 'the lot'. regards Clyve H.
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>
> >I have used this program for a couple of months on my webcam page with
the
> >DSE WM-918 station (which they had on special leading up to Christmas for
> >$298)
> >
> >Michael
>
> I must admit to having come a tad late into this discussion... thanks to
> work... but note that the review of this station is not good. See
>
> http://www.weatherwatchers.org/wxstation/WX-200/review/
>
> I have, for a while, been thinking about installing a WX station to
> compliment my manual observations, and was also thinking around the ~$500
> mark. Have users of this station found it to be nearly as bad as this
review
> would have one believe? Or are the reviewers merely gear snobs.
>
> Regards,
>
> David
>
> Dr David Jones
>
> Climate Analysis Section
> National Climate Centre
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> GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861
> Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923
> email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au
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From: "Clyve Herbert"
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:40:46 +1000
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Hi all.
We should all move to southwest WA over the next
few days, nice cold frontal band with embedded storms moving southeast towards
that region, looks like the area south of Perth appears to be favoured for some
good falls of rain, plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to
the west has an impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems to
have reached its farthest northerly location before wrapping around the maturing
low today ,there's a slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over the
next 24 hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south. regards Clyve
H.
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Yep, looks great Clyve.
Also note that we are very close to breaking the all time May record for the
city site today.
As of 12:10pm it was 31.9C in the city, the May record is 32.4 which occured on
the 2nd May, 1907.
Geraldton at 12noon was an amazing 35.2C, their record 36.6 recorded on the 3rd
May, 1972.
Jacob
At 12:40 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>
> Hi all.
> We should all move to southwest WA over the next few days, nice cold frontal
> band with embedded storms moving southeast towards that region, looks like
> the area south of Perth appears to be favoured for some good falls of rain,
> plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to the west has an
> impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems to have reached
> its farthest northerly location before wrapping around the maturing low today
> ,there's a slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over the next 24
> hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south. regards Clyve H.
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Just broke the record, 32.7 at 1:08pm is the max so far for the city site
today.
Perth Airport 32.9C at 12:59pm, still short of their May record of 33.7C.
Still a slight chance of making it. Geraldton back down to 34.8C at 1pm,
unlikely to break their record now.
Jacob
At 12:24 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote:
>
>Yep, looks great Clyve.
>
>Also note that we are very close to breaking the all time May record for the
>city site today.
>
>As of 12:10pm it was 31.9C in the city, the May record is 32.4 which
occured on
>the 2nd May, 1907.
>
>Geraldton at 12noon was an amazing 35.2C, their record 36.6 recorded on
the 3rd
>May, 1972.
>
>Jacob
>
>At 12:40 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>>
>> Hi all.
>> We should all move to southwest WA over the next few days, nice cold frontal
>> band with embedded storms moving southeast towards that region, looks like
>> the area south of Perth appears to be favoured for some good falls of rain,
>> plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to the west has an
>> impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems to have reached
>> its farthest northerly location before wrapping around the maturing low
today
>> ,there's a slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over the next 24
>> hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south. regards Clyve H.
>
>
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PERTH METRO 01 13:40 34.0 13.5 29 N
Just hit 34C, amazing stuff.
Perth Airport record is now also broken
PERTH AIRPORT 01 13:40 33.9 11.6 25 NNE
JANDAKOT AIRPORT 01 13:40 32.4 12.7 30 NNE
Jacob
At 01:21 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote:
>
>Just broke the record, 32.7 at 1:08pm is the max so far for the city site
>today.
>
>Perth Airport 32.9C at 12:59pm, still short of their May record of 33.7C.
>Still a slight chance of making it. Geraldton back down to 34.8C at 1pm,
>unlikely to break their record now.
>
>Jacob
>
>
>At 12:24 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote:
>>
>>Yep, looks great Clyve.
>>
>>Also note that we are very close to breaking the all time May record for the
>>city site today.
>>
>>As of 12:10pm it was 31.9C in the city, the May record is 32.4 which
>occured on
>>the 2nd May, 1907.
>>
>>Geraldton at 12noon was an amazing 35.2C, their record 36.6 recorded on
>the 3rd
>>May, 1972.
>>
>>Jacob
>>
>>At 12:40 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>> We should all move to southwest WA over the next few days, nice cold
frontal
>>> band with embedded storms moving southeast towards that region, looks like
>>> the area south of Perth appears to be favoured for some good falls of rain,
>>> plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to the west has an
>>> impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems to have reached
>>> its farthest northerly location before wrapping around the maturing low
>today
>>> ,there's a slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over the
next 24
>>> hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south. regards Clyve H.
>>
>>
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Amazing alright
Jacob.......the City site now is Mt Lawley, correct? Does this also beat the
previous City site record?
At 01:21 PM
1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote: > >Just broke the record, 32.7 at
1:08pm is the max so far for the city site >today. > >Perth
Airport 32.9C at 12:59pm, still short of their May record of
33.7C. >Still a slight chance of making it. Geraldton back down to 34.8C
at 1pm, >unlikely to break their record
now. > >Jacob > > >At 12:24 PM 1/05/2002 +0800,
you wrote: >> >>Yep, looks great
Clyve. >> >>Also note that we are very close to breaking the
all time May record for the >>city site
today. >> >>As of 12:10pm it was 31.9C in the city, the May
record is 32.4 which >occured on >>the 2nd May,
1907. >> >>Geraldton at 12noon was an amazing 35.2C, their
record 36.6 recorded on >the 3rd >>May,
1972. >> >>Jacob >> >>At 12:40 PM
1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >>> >>> Hi
all. >>> We should all move to southwest WA over the next few
days, nice cold frontal >>> band with embedded storms moving
southeast towards that region, looks like >>> the area south of
Perth appears to be favoured for some good falls of rain, >>>
plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to the west has
an >>> impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems
to have reached >>> its farthest northerly location before
wrapping around the maturing low >today >>> ,there's a
slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over the next
24 >>> hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south.
regards Clyve H. >> >> >> >>
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Yes it does, as you probably know, the official city site has moved several
times in over 100 years of records. So its not directly comparable. The old
record of 32.4 was recorded on the 2nd May, 1907.
Jacob
At 04:02 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>
> Amazing alright Jacob.......the City site now is Mt Lawley, correct? Does
> this also beat the previous City site record?
>
> Ashton
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> PERTH METRO 01 13:40 34.0 13.5 29 N
>>
>> Just hit 34C, amazing stuff.
>>
>> Perth Airport record is now also broken
>>
>> PERTH AIRPORT 01 13:40 33.9 11.6 25 NNE
>>
>> JANDAKOT AIRPORT 01 13:40 32.4 12.7 30 NNE
>>
>> Jacob
>>
>>
>>
>> At 01:21 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote:
>> >
>> >Just broke the record, 32.7 at 1:08pm is the max so far for the city site
>> >today.
>> >
>> >Perth Airport 32.9C at 12:59pm, still short of their May record of 33.7C.
>> >Still a slight chance of making it. Geraldton back down to 34.8C at 1pm,
>> >unlikely to break their record now.
>> >
>> >Jacob
>> >
>> >
>> >At 12:24 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Yep, looks great Clyve.
>> >>
>> >>Also note that we are very close to breaking the all time May record for
>> the
>> >>city site today.
>> >>
>> >>As of 12:10pm it was 31.9C in the city, the May record is 32.4 which
>> >occured on
>> >>the 2nd May, 1907.
>> >>
>> >>Geraldton at 12noon was an amazing 35.2C, their record 36.6 recorded on
>> >the 3rd
>> >>May, 1972.
>> >>
>> >>Jacob
>> >>
>> >>At 12:40 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all.
>> >>> We should all move to southwest WA over the next few days, nice cold
>> frontal
>> >>> band with embedded storms moving southeast towards that region, looks
>> like
>> >>> the area south of Perth appears to be favoured for some good falls of
>> rain,
>> >>> plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to the west has
>> an
>> >>> impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems to have
>> reached
>> >>> its farthest northerly location before wrapping around the maturing low
>> >today
>> >>> ,there's a slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over the
>> next 24
>> >>> hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south. regards Clyve
>> H.
>> >>
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Hi all
I asked an IRC buddy about the 4.5" hail (he
is a US met)..
he said that 4.5" hail does exist and infact
studies he has been involved in have shown that larger hail has fallen in
parts of AU, China, and India...
As for the rounding to the nearest .50 of an inch,
i think that it is mainly rounded to the nearest 0.25 of an inch with exception
of smailler reports which have 0.88 size.
We also have to remember that all they need is 1
stone of 4.5" to report it, so Avg size may have been 1 or 2 inches and then
there was a 4.5" stone that fell near a spotter....
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> Hi Tom and John, > > From the type of storms
they have over there I do not doubt the existence > of sigificant giant
hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring several times each > season
particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not doubting though >
that there could be at least some slight exaggeration in recording simply
> by the rounding off of hailsize to the nearest 0.5 inch. But let's
say > there was significant hail sizes reported and therefore they do
exist and > they are not so uncommon. My belief is that since
supercells are more > common in the US due to the higher frequencies of
wind shear and high cape > conditions, then significant hail should
occur more regularly. > > Of course, any particular area being
hit by the hail swathe is a much > smaller probability but if we go by
counties, then probabilities increase. > I also do not doubt that such
giant hail events do occur in particular > areas of Australia - some
are more prone than others. The area SW of Camden > near Oakdale
receives severe hail at a higher frequency than other > surrounding
areas such as Sydney. SW and Central parts of Sydney also seems > to
have had more of the frequent hail events than say the region I live and
> surrounds. It is extremely rare for supercell type of events to
affect my > area but the region in SW and Central Sydney is more prone
to such events > in my view based on the proximity to topographic
effects such as the region > near Oakdale and just to the west. >
> On a similar note and getting back to the US, I was quite interested
in > reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's web site about storm
chasers' > beliefs that the panhandle region has a higher density of
tornadoes than > the statistical analyses suggest (Oklahoma City as the
epicentre). Well the > tornado we got last year is officially recorded
as F3 based on damage to > one building and 2 cars picked up and thrown
across the 4 lane highway (the > one we were travelling on). I do
believe the tornado was stronger than this > simply by the shear size,
structure and significant rotation of the collar > cloud. So this is
only one suspect example of many in a relatively sparsely > populated
area of the US. > > Interesting discussion. > > At
11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >Hi Tom. > > >
>That I believe may be the case, and I had serious doubts about a report
of > >4.5" hail in Denver county Colorado, which caused $0
damage. Denver county > >is very small, just 150 odd sq kms and
almost entirely built up, so you > >would expect hail that size to do
significant damage, as per the famous > >Sydney hailstorm. >
> > >But Jimmy provided this excellent link, >
>http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm which shows some nice photos of
2.5" > >and genuine 3" hail, judged by using a ruler on my hand as
compared to the > >photos. But there is no claim in this
article made about the size of > >specific hailstones shown in the
pics, so it is hard to say if there is any > >exaggeration or
not. > > > >I have witnessed hail of this size in SEQ on
several occasions (no storm > >chasing), but would have to say that
for any particular location (street) > >around Brisbane it would be
an approx 1 in 25 year event. > > > >Regards, >
>John W. > > >snip > >-----Original
Message----- > >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tom
Johnstone > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15 AM > >To:
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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake > > >
> > >At 01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell wrote: > >
>I Just had a quick look over SPC and on the 24-4-02 there was 4.5inch
hail > > >reported, thats 11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Now
I'm not saying that those reports are untrue (and they might have been >
>properly verified, I don't know). But in my time in the USA I have
noticed > >a cultural difference between here and Australia. Whereas
Aussies tend to > >understate many things, here in the USA people
like to exaggerate - and > >they do it a lot. So unless 4.5
inches was verified, I would have some > >doubts. >
> > >Cheers, > >Tom > > > >
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Good evening all hows life treating
you.
from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers
intill friday and increasing to rain intill sunday. from
sunday.
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Completely different. http://home.iprimus.com.au/andykeir/freewx.html
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> Glen,
> Do u run the weather view (basic) software that comes with it, or have u
got
> the other weather view software that DSE is asking $90.00 for & if so is
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> worth it?
>
> Or r u running completely different software??
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> > That is the one. Apparently they only have about 5 left in NSW.
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From: Jimmy Deguara
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At 04:27 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi all
>I asked an IRC buddy about the 4.5" hail (he is a US met)..
>he said that 4.5" hail does exist and infact studies he has been involved
>in have shown that larger hail has fallen in parts of AU, China, and India...
Could you refine your comment here. I am not sure whether you are
suggesting if "larger" hail has fallen in AU China and India or you are
referring generally to sunstantial giant hail events in these countries. I
suspect the latter. By the way, we call these exceptionaly giant tile
smashign hail as "gorilla hail". I love it:)))))
>
>As for the rounding to the nearest .50 of an inch, i think that it is
>mainly rounded to the nearest 0.25 of an inch with exception of smailler
>reports which have 0.88 size.
>
>We also have to remember that all they need is 1 stone of 4.5" to report
>it, so Avg size may have been 1 or 2 inches and then there was a 4.5"
>stone that fell near a spotter....
Thanks for the verification from your IRC buddy. As I said, I don't doubt
any of these readings in particular based on the arguments in my previous
e-mails. I do of course know there can be some exaggeration.
Though I think most events that are able to produce the giant hail event
would not usually do it in an isolated manner - well not from my
observations over the years. However, structurally, HP supercells in
particular begin with the "relatively" smaller hail (usually more isolated)
but then become larger as the main core passes over in their mature stage
and falling more in torrents. I suspect LP supercells tend to drop less
hail but can dump some giant stuff. I am not sure if there is such an
organised structure. Classic supercells (or should I say supercells in
their classic stage) are not renowned for the largest giant hail events but
I would not take any risks. I am wondering (suspect) if "extremely" high
windshear situations which are more aligned to the classic tornadic
supercells are less likely to produce the extreme giant hail events.
Getting back to the original purpose of the post, I again do not doubt the
extent of the giant hail reported in the US since they are posting warnings
of hail to 2", 3" and 4" and like I said I have seen 5" warning. Usually
somewhere, spotters verify something of such a nature as Simon has pointed
out just in recent examples.
This has been an interesting thread.
Jimmy Deguara
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>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:54 AM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
>
>Having a look at SPC again this morning, AGAIN 4.5inch hail was reported on
>th 29-4-02 this time
>
>TIME | SIZE | LOCATION | COUNTY | STATE | LAT | LONG |
>COMMENTS
>0133 275 5 W WEATHERFORD PARKER TX 3276 9789 REPORTED
>BY
>
>STORM SPOTTER.
>
>(FTW)
>
>0134 300 5 S
>BRIDGEPORT WISE TX 3313 9776 REPORTED BY
>
>STORM SPOTTER.
>
>(FTW)
>
>0153 450 DECATUR WISE TX 3323 9760
> REPORTED BY HAM
>
>RADIO OPERATOR.
>
>(FTW)
>
>Hail Sizes in 1/100 of an Inch (75 = 0.75")
>Source -->
>http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html
>OR
> http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/020429_prt_rpts.html
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>From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:27 PM
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> > Hi Tom and John,
> >
> > From the type of storms they have over there I do not doubt the existence
> > of sigificant giant hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring several times each
> > season particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not doubting though
> > that there could be at least some slight exaggeration in recording simply
> > by the rounding off of hailsize to the nearest 0.5 inch. But let's say
> > there was significant hail sizes reported and therefore they do exist and
> > they are not so uncommon. My belief is that since supercells are more
> > common in the US due to the higher frequencies of wind shear and high cape
> > conditions, then significant hail should occur more regularly.
> >
> > Of course, any particular area being hit by the hail swathe is a much
> > smaller probability but if we go by counties, then probabilities increase.
> > I also do not doubt that such giant hail events do occur in particular
> > areas of Australia - some are more prone than others. The area SW of
> Camden
> > near Oakdale receives severe hail at a higher frequency than other
> > surrounding areas such as Sydney. SW and Central parts of Sydney also
> seems
> > to have had more of the frequent hail events than say the region I live
> and
> > surrounds. It is extremely rare for supercell type of events to affect my
> > area but the region in SW and Central Sydney is more prone to such events
> > in my view based on the proximity to topographic effects such as the
> region
> > near Oakdale and just to the west.
> >
> > On a similar note and getting back to the US, I was quite interested in
> > reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's web site about storm chasers'
> > beliefs that the panhandle region has a higher density of tornadoes than
> > the statistical analyses suggest (Oklahoma City as the epicentre). Well
> the
> > tornado we got last year is officially recorded as F3 based on damage to
> > one building and 2 cars picked up and thrown across the 4 lane highway
> (the
> > one we were travelling on). I do believe the tornado was stronger than
> this
> > simply by the shear size, structure and significant rotation of the collar
> > cloud. So this is only one suspect example of many in a relatively
> sparsely
> > populated area of the US.
> >
> > Interesting discussion.
> >
> > At 11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> > >Hi Tom.
> > >
> > >That I believe may be the case, and I had serious doubts about a
> report of
> > >4.5" hail in Denver county Colorado, which caused $0 damage. Denver
> county
> > >is very small, just 150 odd sq kms and almost entirely built up, so you
> > >would expect hail that size to do significant damage, as per the famous
> > >Sydney hailstorm.
> > >
> > >But Jimmy provided this excellent link,
> > >http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm which shows some nice photos of
> 2.5"
> > >and genuine 3" hail, judged by using a ruler on my hand as compared to
> the
> > >photos. But there is no claim in this article made about the size of
> > >specific hailstones shown in the pics, so it is hard to say if there
> is any
> > >exaggeration or not.
> > >
> > >I have witnessed hail of this size in SEQ on several occasions (no storm
> > >chasing), but would have to say that for any particular location (street)
> > >around Brisbane it would be an approx 1 in 25 year event.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >John W.
> > > >snip
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From:
> aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>
> > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tom Johnstone
> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15 AM
> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> > >
> > >
> > >At 01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell wrote:
> > > >I Just had a quick look over SPC and on the 24-4-02 there was
> 4.5inch hail
> > > >reported, thats 11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >Now I'm not saying that those reports are untrue (and they might have
> been
> > >properly verified, I don't know). But in my time in the USA I have
> noticed
> > >a cultural difference between here and Australia. Whereas Aussies tend to
> > >understate many things, here in the USA people like to exaggerate - and
> > >they do it a lot. So unless 4.5 inches was verified, I would have some
> > >doubts.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Tom
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> >
> > from
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> > NSW Australia
> >
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At 06:12 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>Good evening all hows life treating you.
>from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers intill friday and
>increasing to rain intill sunday. from sunday.
Well, in Melbourne, looks like that high is going to remain parked here for
another week. We'll have to issue a few parking tickets! :)
I recall some lingering highs, but this one takes the cake - expected to
hang around for at least another week!!!
The problem is the inversions it brings (great for VHF/UHF radio) are also
trapping smog. I'll be glad to get a couple of days up in Sydney from
tomorrow. :)
73 de Tony, VK3JED
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Interesting too that such blocking highs are more usual over NZ especially
in summer or spring..does this mean we can expect one in June over Bass
Strait with an east coast low...?
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> At 06:12 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>
> >Good evening all hows life treating you.
> >from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers intill friday and
> >increasing to rain intill sunday. from sunday.
>
> Well, in Melbourne, looks like that high is going to remain parked here
for
> another week. We'll have to issue a few parking tickets! :)
>
> I recall some lingering highs, but this one takes the cake - expected to
> hang around for at least another week!!!
>
> The problem is the inversions it brings (great for VHF/UHF radio) are also
> trapping smog. I'll be glad to get a couple of days up in Sydney from
> tomorrow. :)
>
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Even warmer than here in Alice Springs! The April average max. temp would've
been broken for most of Central Australia - not much good when we spent a
week floating (frying) in Dalhousie Hot Springs last week! We expected much
cooler temps.! The front off the sw coast looks good for some action -
hopefully it makes Adelaide. Here in Alice - fine days until October. More
interest in observing other locations.
Cheers,
Duncan Treloar
Alice Springs
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>
> Yes it does, as you probably know, the official city site has moved
several
> times in over 100 years of records. So its not directly comparable. The
old
> record of 32.4 was recorded on the 2nd May, 1907.
>
> Jacob
>
>
> At 04:02 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> >
> > Amazing alright Jacob.......the City site now is Mt Lawley, correct?
Does
> > this also beat the previous City site record?
> >
> > Ashton
> >>
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> >> From: Jacob
> >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:43 PM
> >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Perth Record
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> PERTH METRO 01 13:40 34.0 13.5 29 N
> >>
> >> Just hit 34C, amazing stuff.
> >>
> >> Perth Airport record is now also broken
> >>
> >> PERTH AIRPORT 01 13:40 33.9 11.6 25 NNE
> >>
> >> JANDAKOT AIRPORT 01 13:40 32.4 12.7 30 NNE
> >>
> >> Jacob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 01:21 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Just broke the record, 32.7 at 1:08pm is the max so far for the city
site
> >> >today.
> >> >
> >> >Perth Airport 32.9C at 12:59pm, still short of their May record of
33.7C.
> >> >Still a slight chance of making it. Geraldton back down to 34.8C at
1pm,
> >> >unlikely to break their record now.
> >> >
> >> >Jacob
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >At 12:24 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>Yep, looks great Clyve.
> >> >>
> >> >>Also note that we are very close to breaking the all time May record
for
> >> the
> >> >>city site today.
> >> >>
> >> >>As of 12:10pm it was 31.9C in the city, the May record is 32.4 which
> >> >occured on
> >> >>the 2nd May, 1907.
> >> >>
> >> >>Geraldton at 12noon was an amazing 35.2C, their record 36.6 recorded
on
> >> >the 3rd
> >> >>May, 1972.
> >> >>
> >> >>Jacob
> >> >>
> >> >>At 12:40 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi all.
> >> >>> We should all move to southwest WA over the next few days, nice
cold
> >> frontal
> >> >>> band with embedded storms moving southeast towards that region,
looks
> >> like
> >> >>> the area south of Perth appears to be favoured for some good falls
of
> >> rain,
> >> >>> plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to the
west has
> >> an
> >> >>> impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems to have
> >> reached
> >> >>> its farthest northerly location before wrapping around the maturing
low
> >> >today
> >> >>> ,there's a slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over
the
> >> next 24
> >> >>> hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south. regards
Clyve
> >> H.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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At 07:04 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>Interesting too that such blocking highs are more usual over NZ especially
>in summer or spring..does this mean we can expect one in June over Bass
>Strait with an east coast low...?
Well, who knows? :)
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His Actual Comment...
[16:11:16] <StormSGF> yes, 4.5" hail does
exist [16:11:46] <StormSGF> infact, I'm surprised you asked that
Canberra-Wx because our studies have shown that parts of AU, China, and India
have bigger hail then we do
I assume he meant that we get bigger hail then
they get....
Also, i was watching strom warning of the discovery
channel a little earlier, and a Met from the US went on a chase and got caught
up in a hail storm, from the footage i saw most has was 1 to 2 inches, but the
rear window got smashed then seconds later the front got shattered, although it
was still in the frame *just*, the Met said it would have been 5" hail that
bounced off the bonnet and hit the windscreen.. Toward the end of the story it
showed a peice of giant hail in a person hand and said "this 3" hail..." to me
however it looked 2" max as was smaller than the hand it was
on!!!!
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into
lake
> At 04:27 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >Hi all >
>I asked an IRC buddy about the 4.5" hail (he is a US met).. > >he
said that 4.5" hail does exist and infact studies he has been involved >
>in have shown that larger hail has fallen in parts of AU, China, and
India... > > Could you refine your comment here. I am not sure
whether you are > suggesting if "larger" hail has fallen in AU China and
India or you are > referring generally to sunstantial giant hail events
in these countries. I > suspect the latter. By the way, we call these
exceptionaly giant tile > smashign hail as "gorilla hail". I love
it:))))) > > > > >As for the rounding to the nearest
.50 of an inch, i think that it is > >mainly rounded to the nearest
0.25 of an inch with exception of smailler > >reports which have 0.88
size. > > > >We also have to remember that all they need is 1
stone of 4.5" to report > >it, so Avg size may have been 1 or 2 inches
and then there was a 4.5" > >stone that fell near a
spotter.... > > Thanks for the verification from your IRC buddy. As
I said, I don't doubt > any of these readings in particular based on the
arguments in my previous > e-mails. I do of course know there can be some
exaggeration. > > Though I think most events that are able to
produce the giant hail event > would not usually do it in an isolated
manner - well not from my > observations over the years. However,
structurally, HP supercells in > particular begin with the "relatively"
smaller hail (usually more isolated) > but then become larger as the main
core passes over in their mature stage > and falling more in torrents. I
suspect LP supercells tend to drop less > hail but can dump some giant
stuff. I am not sure if there is such an > organised structure. Classic
supercells (or should I say supercells in > their classic stage) are not
renowned for the largest giant hail events but > I would not take any
risks. I am wondering (suspect) if "extremely" high > windshear
situations which are more aligned to the classic tornadic > supercells
are less likely to produce the extreme giant hail events. > >
Getting back to the original purpose of the post, I again do not doubt the
> extent of the giant hail reported in the US since they are posting
warnings > of hail to 2", 3" and 4" and like I said I have seen 5"
warning. Usually > somewhere, spotters verify something of such a nature
as Simon has pointed > out just in recent examples. > > This
has been an interesting thread. > > Jimmy Deguara > >
> >Cheers > >--------------------------------------- >
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>From: <mailto:seangell at iprimus.com.au>Simon Angell > >To: <mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:54 AM >
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake > > >
>Having a look at SPC again this morning, AGAIN 4.5inch hail was reported on
> >th 29-4-02 this time > > > >TIME | SIZE |
LOCATION
| COUNTY | STATE | LAT | LONG | > >COMMENTS >
>0133 275 5 W WEATHERFORD
PARKER TX 3276
9789 REPORTED > >BY > > > >STORM
SPOTTER. > > > >(FTW) > > >
>0134 300 5 S >
>BRIDGEPORT
WISE TX
3313 9776 REPORTED BY > > >
>STORM SPOTTER. > > > >(FTW) > > >
>0153 450
DECATUR
WISE TX
3323 9760 > > REPORTED BY HAM >
> > >RADIO OPERATOR. > > > >(FTW) >
> > >Hail Sizes in 1/100 of an Inch (75 = 0.75") > >Source
--> > ><http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html>http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html > >OR >
>
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/020429_prt_rpts.html > > > >Cheers >
>--------------------------------------- > >Simon Angell >
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>From: "Jimmy Deguara" <<mailto:jdeguara at ihug.com.au>jdeguara at ihug.com.au> > >To: <<mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:27 PM >
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake > > > Hi
Tom and John, > > > > > > From the type of storms
they have over there I do not doubt the existence > > > of
sigificant giant hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring several times each >
> > season particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not doubting
though > > > that there could be at least some slight exaggeration
in recording simply > > > by the rounding off of hailsize to the
nearest 0.5 inch. But let's say > > > there was significant hail
sizes reported and therefore they do exist and > > > they are not so
uncommon. My belief is that since supercells are more > > > common
in the US due to the higher frequencies of wind shear and high cape > >
> conditions, then significant hail should occur more regularly. > >
> > > > Of course, any particular area being hit by the hail
swathe is a much > > > smaller probability but if we go by counties,
then probabilities increase. > > > I also do not doubt that such
giant hail events do occur in particular > > > areas of Australia -
some are more prone than others. The area SW of > > Camden >
> > near Oakdale receives severe hail at a higher frequency than
other > > > surrounding areas such as Sydney. SW and Central parts
of Sydney also > > seems > > > to have had more of the
frequent hail events than say the region I live > > and > >
> surrounds. It is extremely rare for supercell type of events to affect
my > > > area but the region in SW and Central Sydney is more prone
to such events > > > in my view based on the proximity to
topographic effects such as the > > region > > > near
Oakdale and just to the west. > > > > > > On a similar
note and getting back to the US, I was quite interested in > > >
reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's web site about storm chasers' >
> > beliefs that the panhandle region has a higher density of tornadoes
than > > > the statistical analyses suggest (Oklahoma City as the
epicentre). Well > > the > > > tornado we got last year is
officially recorded as F3 based on damage to > > > one building and
2 cars picked up and thrown across the 4 lane highway > > (the >
> > one we were travelling on). I do believe the tornado was stronger than
> > this > > > simply by the shear size, structure and
significant rotation of the collar > > > cloud. So this is only one
suspect example of many in a relatively > > sparsely > > >
populated area of the US. > > > > > > Interesting
discussion. > > > > > > At 11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000, you
wrote: > > > >Hi Tom. > > > > > > >
>That I believe may be the case, and I had serious doubts about a >
> report of > > > >4.5" hail in Denver county Colorado, which
caused $0 damage. Denver > > county > > > >is
very small, just 150 odd sq kms and almost entirely built up, so you >
> > >would expect hail that size to do significant damage, as per the
famous > > > >Sydney hailstorm. > > > > >
> > >But Jimmy provided this excellent link, > > >
>http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm which shows some nice photos of
> > 2.5" > > > >and genuine 3" hail, judged by using a
ruler on my hand as compared to > > the > > >
>photos. But there is no claim in this article made about the size
of > > > >specific hailstones shown in the pics, so it is hard to
say if there > > is any > > > >exaggeration or
not. > > > > > > > >I have witnessed hail of this
size in SEQ on several occasions (no storm > > > >chasing), but
would have to say that for any particular location (street) > > >
>around Brisbane it would be an approx 1 in 25 year event. > > >
> > > > >Regards, > > > >John W. > >
> > >snip > > > >-----Original Message----- > >
> >From: > > <mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com>aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > > > >
>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tom
Johnstone > > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15 AM >
> > >To: <mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family
into lake > > > > > > > > > > > >At
01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell wrote: > > > > >I Just
had a quick look over SPC and on the 24-4-02 there was > > 4.5inch
hail > > > > >reported, thats 11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >
> > >Now I'm not saying that those reports are untrue (and they might
have > > been > > > >properly verified, I don't know).
But in my time in the USA I have > > noticed > > > >a
cultural difference between here and Australia. Whereas Aussies tend to >
> > >understate many things, here in the USA people like to
exaggerate - and > > > >they do it a lot. So unless 4.5
inches was verified, I would have some > > > >doubts. >
> > > > > > >Cheers, > > > >Tom >
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 21:28:42 +1200
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Hi,
That high over SE Australia is rudely fowling our weather (NZ). Could you
shift a bit further east please.
I like autumn sunshine. South of the South island is getting it worst with
thunder and hail today and
snow down to 700m. Tomorrow, southwest gales and squally showers for
Invercargill.
Bye
Steven W
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> Interesting too that such blocking highs are more usual over NZ especially
> in summer or spring..does this mean we can expect one in June over Bass
> Strait with an east coast low...?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:36 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
>
>
> > At 06:12 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> >
> > >Good evening all hows life treating you.
> > >from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers intill friday and
> > >increasing to rain intill sunday. from sunday.
> >
> > Well, in Melbourne, looks like that high is going to remain parked here
> for
> > another week. We'll have to issue a few parking tickets! :)
> >
> > I recall some lingering highs, but this one takes the cake - expected to
> > hang around for at least another week!!!
> >
> > The problem is the inversions it brings (great for VHF/UHF radio) are
also
> > trapping smog. I'll be glad to get a couple of days up in Sydney from
> > tomorrow. :)
> >
> > 73 de Tony, VK3JED
> > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net
> >
>
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At 09:28 PM 1/05/2002 +1200, you wrote:
>Hi,
>That high over SE Australia is rudely fowling our weather (NZ). Could you
>shift a bit further east please.
>I like autumn sunshine. South of the South island is getting it worst with
>thunder and hail today and
>snow down to 700m. Tomorrow, southwest gales and squally showers for
>Invercargill.
I'd happily nudge it across if I could, it's trapping smog over here. :-(
And I like warm days with a northerly :)
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Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:46:09 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
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Hi Simon,
Ok. So ask this person about the validity of the reports in the database
which initially started this thread. I don't doubt that these counties
including Australia don't get such giant hail events - after all Casino,
Kingslcliff and Sydney are recent examples. I would also add Bangladesh
into the equation with heat within the tropics and let's say sufficient
windshear being the main reason why such giant hail can exist there. But
the warmer temperatures should help in melting some of the hail so
perhaps it would occur more in the elevated regions?? I am still in the
process of studying the events there. I think David Croan would be in a
better position to discuss some of the literature regards severe weather
that is associated with the area.
There are exceptional giant hail events of 5" and greater. Have
these been verified? I think the Sydney hailstorm has now been accepted
as having produced the largest hailstones officially in Australia - 11 -
12cm. The 14cm hail report from Kempsey has been discounted because it
was not measured.
Thanks.
Jimmy Deguara
At 07:13 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
His
Actual Comment... [16:11:16] <StormSGF> yes, 4.5"
hail does exist
[16:11:46] <StormSGF> infact, I'm surprised you asked that
Canberra-Wx because our studies have shown that parts of AU, China, and
India have bigger hail then we do
I assume he meant that we get bigger hail then
they get....
Also, i was watching strom warning of the
discovery channel a little earlier, and a Met from the US went on a chase
and got caught up in a hail storm, from the footage i saw most has was 1
to 2 inches, but the rear window got smashed then seconds later the front
got shattered, although it was still in the frame *just*, the Met said it
would have been 5" hail that bounced off the bonnet and hit the
windscreen.. Toward the end of the story it showed a peice of giant hail
in a person hand and said "this 3" hail..." to me however
it looked 2" max as was smaller than the hand it was
on!!!!
Cheers
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From: "Jimmy Deguara"
<jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
To:
<aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:32
PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into
lake
> At 04:27 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you
wrote:
> >Hi all
> >I asked an IRC buddy about the 4.5" hail (he is a US
met)..
> >he said that 4.5" hail does exist and infact studies he has
been involved
> >in have shown that larger hail has fallen in parts of AU, China,
and India...
>
> Could you refine your comment here. I am not sure whether you are
> suggesting if "larger" hail has fallen in AU China and
India or you are
> referring generally to sunstantial giant hail events in these
countries. I
> suspect the latter. By the way, we call these exceptionaly giant
tile
> smashign hail as "gorilla hail". I love it:)))))
>
> >
> >As for the rounding to the nearest .50 of an inch, i think that
it is
> >mainly rounded to the nearest 0.25 of an inch with exception of
smailler
> >reports which have 0.88 size.
> >
> >We also have to remember that all they need is 1 stone of
4.5" to report
> >it, so Avg size may have been 1 or 2 inches and then there was a
4.5"
> >stone that fell near a spotter....
>
> Thanks for the verification from your IRC buddy. As I said, I don't
doubt
> any of these readings in particular based on the arguments in my
previous
> e-mails. I do of course know there can be some exaggeration.
>
> Though I think most events that are able to produce the giant hail
event
> would not usually do it in an isolated manner - well not from my
> observations over the years. However, structurally, HP supercells in
> particular begin with the "relatively" smaller hail
(usually more isolated)
> but then become larger as the main core passes over in their mature
stage
> and falling more in torrents. I suspect LP supercells tend to drop
less
> hail but can dump some giant stuff. I am not sure if there is such
an
> organised structure. Classic supercells (or should I say supercells
in
> their classic stage) are not renowned for the largest giant hail
events but
> I would not take any risks. I am wondering (suspect) if
"extremely" high
> windshear situations which are more aligned to the classic tornadic
> supercells are less likely to produce the extreme giant hail
events.
>
> Getting back to the original purpose of the post, I again do not
doubt the
> extent of the giant hail reported in the US since they are posting
warnings
> of hail to 2", 3" and 4" and like I said I have seen
5" warning. Usually
> somewhere, spotters verify something of such a nature as Simon has
pointed
> out just in recent examples.
>
> This has been an interesting thread.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
>
> >Cheers
> >---------------------------------------
> >Simon Angell
> >Canberra, ACT
>
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Angell
> >To:
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> >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:54
AM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> >
> >Having a look at SPC again this morning, AGAIN 4.5inch hail was
reported on
> >th 29-4-02 this time
> >
> >TIME | SIZE |
LOCATION
| COUNTY | STATE | LAT | LONG |
> >COMMENTS
> >0133 275 5 W
WEATHERFORD PARKER
TX 3276
9789 REPORTED
> >BY
> >
> >STORM SPOTTER.
> >
> >(FTW)
> >
> >0134 300 5 S
> >BRIDGEPORT
WISE
TX 3313
9776 REPORTED BY
> >
> >STORM SPOTTER.
> >
> >(FTW)
> >
> >0153 450
DECATUR
WISE
TX 3323 9760
> > REPORTED BY HAM
> >
> >RADIO OPERATOR.
> >
> >(FTW)
> >
> >Hail Sizes in 1/100 of an Inch (75 = 0.75")
> >Source -->
>
><http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html>http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html
> >OR
>
>
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/020429_prt_rpts.html
> >
> >Cheers
> >---------------------------------------
> >Simon Angell
> >Canberra, ACT
>
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> >From: "Jimmy Deguara"
<<mailto:jdeguara at ihug.com.au>jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
> >To:
<<mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:27 PM
> >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> > > Hi Tom and John,
> > >
> > > From the type of storms they have over there I do
not doubt the existence
> > > of sigificant giant hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring
several times each
> > > season particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not
doubting though
> > > that there could be at least some slight exaggeration in
recording simply
> > > by the rounding off of hailsize to the nearest 0.5 inch.
But let's say
> > > there was significant hail sizes reported and therefore
they do exist and
> > > they are not so uncommon. My belief is that since
supercells are more
> > > common in the US due to the higher frequencies of wind
shear and high cape
> > > conditions, then significant hail should occur more
regularly.
> > >
> > > Of course, any particular area being hit by the hail
swathe is a much
> > > smaller probability but if we go by counties, then
probabilities increase.
> > > I also do not doubt that such giant hail events do occur
in particular
> > > areas of Australia - some are more prone than others. The
area SW of
> > Camden
> > > near Oakdale receives severe hail at a higher frequency
than other
> > > surrounding areas such as Sydney. SW and Central parts of
Sydney also
> > seems
> > > to have had more of the frequent hail events than say the
region I live
> > and
> > > surrounds. It is extremely rare for supercell type of
events to affect my
> > > area but the region in SW and Central Sydney is more prone
to such events
> > > in my view based on the proximity to topographic effects
such as the
> > region
> > > near Oakdale and just to the west.
> > >
> > > On a similar note and getting back to the US, I was quite
interested in
> > > reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's web site about
storm chasers'
> > > beliefs that the panhandle region has a higher density of
tornadoes than
> > > the statistical analyses suggest (Oklahoma City as the
epicentre). Well
> > the
> > > tornado we got last year is officially recorded as F3
based on damage to
> > > one building and 2 cars picked up and thrown across the 4
lane highway
> > (the
> > > one we were travelling on). I do believe the tornado was
stronger than
> > this
> > > simply by the shear size, structure and significant
rotation of the collar
> > > cloud. So this is only one suspect example of many in a
relatively
> > sparsely
> > > populated area of the US.
> > >
> > > Interesting discussion.
> > >
> > > At 11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> > > >Hi Tom.
> > > >
> > > >That I believe may be the case, and I had serious
doubts about a
> > report of
> > > >4.5" hail in Denver county Colorado, which caused
$0 damage. Denver
> > county
> > > >is very small, just 150 odd sq kms and almost entirely
built up, so you
> > > >would expect hail that size to do significant damage,
as per the famous
> > > >Sydney hailstorm.
> > > >
> > > >But Jimmy provided this excellent link,
> > >
>http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm
which shows some nice photos of
> > 2.5"
> > > >and genuine 3" hail, judged by using a ruler on
my hand as compared to
> > the
> > > >photos. But there is no claim in this article
made about the size of
> > > >specific hailstones shown in the pics, so it is hard
to say if there
> > is any
> > > >exaggeration or not.
> > > >
> > > >I have witnessed hail of this size in SEQ on several
occasions (no storm
> > > >chasing), but would have to say that for any
particular location (street)
> > > >around Brisbane it would be an approx 1 in 25 year
event.
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >John W.
> > > > >snip
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From:
> >
<mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com>aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> >
> > >
>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On
Behalf Of Tom Johnstone
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15 AM
> > > >To:
<mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado
sweeps family into lake
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >At 01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell wrote:
> > > > >I Just had a quick look over SPC and on the
24-4-02 there was
> > 4.5inch hail
> > > > >reported, thats 11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >Now I'm not saying that those reports are untrue (and
they might have
> > been
> > > >properly verified, I don't know). But in my time in
the USA I have
> > noticed
> > > >a cultural difference between here and Australia.
Whereas Aussies tend to
> > > >understate many things, here in the USA people like to
exaggerate - and
> > > >they do it a lot. So unless 4.5 inches was verified, I
would have some
> > > >doubts.
> > > >
> > > >Cheers,
> > > >Tom
> > > >
> > > >
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FreeWX 20:00:08
T:+13.9C H:96% Bar:1019hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,060 Wavg:Calm,060
DP:+13.3C WC:+14C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+21.8C Hin:57%
****************************************************
Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
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Weather Conditions at 20:00:08 May 1
Temperature: +13.9 °C
Humidity: 96 %
Wind Speed (gust): Calm
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 060°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 060°
Barometer: 1019 hPa and Steady
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: +13.3 °C
Wind Chill: +14 °C
Heat Index: n.a.
Indoor Temperature: +21.8 °C
Indoor Humidity: 57 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +13.5 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: + 00.4 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 74 meters. (245 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15
Minimum Temperature: +13.9 °C at 20:00
Maximum Humidity: 96 % at 20:00
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17
Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 10:36
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +15.2 °C at 09:36
Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25
Minimum Wind Chill: +14 °C at 20:00
Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +21.8 °C at 20:00
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +25.2 °C at 10:44
Minimum Temperature: +7.9 °C at 06:13
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 08:24
Minimum Humidity: 37 % at 13:50
Maximum Wind (gust): 8.5 KT, 48° at 13:03
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 11:21
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
Maximum Rainfall Rate: 1 mm/hour at 09:00
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 4 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +19.5 °C at 08:24
Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 13:50
Minimum Wind Chill: +8 °C at 06:45
Maximum Heat Index: +25.6 °C at 10:45
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +21.8 °C at 20:00
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Subject: aus-wx: WM-918 Barometer Readings
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 21:39:28 +0930
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Hi there,
With the barametric pressure on
the WM-918 weather station, i've set the sea level pressure as listed at
Adelaide airport (in this case 1026 hPa) but when mine goes back to normal
display it reads 1013 hPa. What am i reading here or have i done something
wrong?
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From: "James Pickett"
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:47:12 +0000
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Hi Tony,
No, to put it bluntly you won't want to be here either, Sydney is also going through a chronic stage of boring, calm, dry, dirty weather. Add a few more cars than in Melbourne, a few more people and that same bloody High and inversion layer and you have one very dirty situation, not a breath of wind either. I suggest perhaps a trip out Jimmy Deguaras way, i hear they have some severe fogs out there even the odd 'superfog'......
Regards. ( Ps). watch out for "THE CLOUD". !!!!!!
James... Brighton---Sydney
ASWA member
>From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
>Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 18:36:36 +1000
>
>At 06:12 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>
>>Good evening all hows life treating you.
>>from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers intill friday and
>>increasing to rain intill sunday. from sunday.
>
>Well, in Melbourne, looks like that high is going to remain parked
>here for
>another week. We'll have to issue a few parking tickets! :)
>
>I recall some lingering highs, but this one takes the cake -
>expected to
>hang around for at least another week!!!
>
>The problem is the inversions it brings (great for VHF/UHF radio)
>are also
>trapping smog. I'll be glad to get a couple of days up in Sydney
>from
>tomorrow. :)
>
>73 de Tony, VK3JED
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From: Jimmy Deguara
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HI James,
We do get some impressive fogs and have had already several fogs this
autumn already. Though I doubt our fog compares with some of the colder
climates down south.
Jimmy Deguara
At 12:47 PM 1/5/2002 +0000, you wrote:
Hi Tony,
No, to put it
bluntly you won't want to be here either, Sydney is also going through a
chronic stage of boring, calm, dry, dirty weather. Add a few more cars
than in Melbourne, a few more people and that same bloody High and
inversion layer and you have one very dirty situation, not a breath of
wind either. I suggest perhaps a trip out Jimmy Deguaras way,
i hear they have some severe fogs out there even the odd
'superfog'......
Regards. ( Ps). watch out for
"THE CLOUD". !!!!!!
James...
Brighton---Sydney
ASWA member
>From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
>Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 18:36:36 +1000
>
>At 06:12 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>
>>Good evening all hows life treating you.
>>from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers intill friday and
>>increasing to rain intill sunday. from sunday.
>
>Well, in Melbourne, looks like that high is going to remain parked
>here for
>another week. We'll have to issue a few parking tickets! :)
>
>I recall some lingering highs, but this one takes the cake -
>expected to
>hang around for at least another week!!!
>
>The problem is the inversions it brings (great for VHF/UHF radio)
>are also
>trapping smog. I'll be glad to get a couple of days up in Sydney
>from
>tomorrow. :)
>
>73 de Tony, VK3JED
>http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net
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FreeWX 00:00:08
T:+14.1C H: 100% Bar:1019hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,103 Wavg:Calm,103
DP:+14.1C WC:+14C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+20.9C Hin:62%
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Weather Conditions at 00:00:08 May 2
Temperature: +14.1 °C
Humidity: 100 %
Wind Speed (gust): Calm
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 103°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 103°
Barometer: 1019 hPa and Steady
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: +14.1 °C
Wind Chill: +14 °C
Heat Index: n.a.
Indoor Temperature: +20.9 °C
Indoor Humidity: 62 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.1 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15
Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 00:00
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17
Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 23:51
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +15.2 °C at 09:36
Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25
Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04
Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +25.2 °C at 10:44
Minimum Temperature: +7.9 °C at 06:13
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 08:24
Minimum Humidity: 37 % at 13:50
Maximum Wind (gust): 8.5 KT, 48° at 13:03
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 11:21
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
Maximum Rainfall Rate: 1 mm/hour at 09:00
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 4 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +19.5 °C at 08:24
Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 13:50
Minimum Wind Chill: +8 °C at 06:45
Maximum Heat Index: +25.6 °C at 10:45
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25
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Subject: aus-wx: What's a Tornado?
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Channel 10 seems to think that a tornado is a storm(not a part of a storm),
that they happen at random(not connected to storms) and that a rating for a
storm is F4!!!
David
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 01:58:43 +1000
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I had replied earlier, but they havent seemed
tohave come throus, so ill cut and paste it here
I asked for verfication on his earlier
comment and his response was.
---------------------------------------
[19:15:50] <StormSGF> I guess I mean
both...the number of events and the size of the hail. I've seen some data that
suggests the hail in India/Mongolia/China is the largest in the
world.
I have asked him about the database, and just
waiting for a response
---------------------------------
His response to the validity is...
[20:39:33] <StormSGF> the reports in that
database (US) are very valid
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps
family into lake
Hi Simon,
Ok. So ask this person about the validity of
the reports in the database which initially started this thread. I don't doubt
that these counties including Australia don't get such giant hail events -
after all Casino, Kingslcliff and Sydney are recent examples. I would also add
Bangladesh into the equation with heat within the tropics and let's say
sufficient windshear being the main reason why such giant hail can exist
there. But the warmer temperatures should help in melting some of the hail so
perhaps it would occur more in the elevated regions?? I am still in the
process of studying the events there. I think David Croan would be in a better
position to discuss some of the literature regards severe weather that is
associated with the area.
There
are exceptional giant hail events of 5" and greater. Have these been verified?
I think the Sydney hailstorm has now been accepted as having produced the
largest hailstones officially in Australia - 11 - 12cm. The 14cm hail report
from Kempsey has been discounted because it was not
measured.
Thanks.
Jimmy Deguara
At 07:13 PM 1/5/2002
+1000, you wrote:
His
Actual Comment... [16:11:16]
<StormSGF> yes, 4.5" hail does exist [16:11:46] <StormSGF>
infact, I'm surprised you asked that Canberra-Wx because our studies have
shown that parts of AU, China, and India have bigger hail then we
do
I assume he meant that we
get bigger hail then they get....
Also, i was watching strom warning of the discovery channel a little
earlier, and a Met from the US went on a chase and got caught up in a hail
storm, from the footage i saw most has was 1 to 2 inches, but the rear
window got smashed then seconds later the front got shattered, although it
was still in the frame *just*, the Met said it would have been 5" hail that
bounced off the bonnet and hit the windscreen.. Toward the end of the story
it showed a peice of giant hail in a person hand and said "this 3" hail..."
to me however it looked 2" max as was smaller than the hand it was
on!!!!
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"Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at ihug.com.au> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into
lake
> At
04:27 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >Hi all > >I asked
an IRC buddy about the 4.5" hail (he is a US met).. > >he said that
4.5" hail does exist and infact studies he has been involved > >in
have shown that larger hail has fallen in parts of AU, China, and
India... > > Could you refine your comment here. I am not sure
whether you are > suggesting if "larger" hail has fallen in AU China
and India or you are > referring generally to sunstantial giant hail
events in these countries. I > suspect the latter. By the way, we
call these exceptionaly giant tile > smashign hail as "gorilla hail".
I love it:))))) > > > > >As for the rounding to the
nearest .50 of an inch, i think that it is > >mainly rounded to
the nearest 0.25 of an inch with exception of smailler > >reports
which have 0.88 size. > > > >We also have to remember that
all they need is 1 stone of 4.5" to report > >it, so Avg size may
have been 1 or 2 inches and then there was a 4.5" > >stone that
fell near a spotter.... > > Thanks for the verification from
your IRC buddy. As I said, I don't doubt > any of these readings in
particular based on the arguments in my previous > e-mails. I do of
course know there can be some exaggeration. > > Though I think
most events that are able to produce the giant hail event > would not
usually do it in an isolated manner - well not from my > observations
over the years. However, structurally, HP supercells in > particular
begin with the "relatively" smaller hail (usually more isolated) >
but then become larger as the main core passes over in their mature stage
> and falling more in torrents. I suspect LP supercells tend to drop
less > hail but can dump some giant stuff. I am not sure if there is
such an > organised structure. Classic supercells (or should I say
supercells in > their classic stage) are not renowned for the largest
giant hail events but > I would not take any risks. I am wondering
(suspect) if "extremely" high > windshear situations which are more
aligned to the classic tornadic > supercells are less likely to
produce the extreme giant hail events. > > Getting back to the
original purpose of the post, I again do not doubt the > extent of
the giant hail reported in the US since they are posting warnings >
of hail to 2", 3" and 4" and like I said I have seen 5" warning. Usually
> somewhere, spotters verify something of such a nature as Simon has
pointed > out just in recent examples. > > This has been
an interesting thread. > > Jimmy Deguara > >
> >Cheers >
>--------------------------------------- > >Simon Angell >
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Angell > >To: <mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:54 AM >
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake >
> > >Having a look at SPC again this morning, AGAIN 4.5inch hail
was reported on > >th 29-4-02 this time > > >
>TIME | SIZE |
LOCATION
| COUNTY | STATE | LAT | LONG | >
>COMMENTS > >0133 275 5 W
WEATHERFORD PARKER
TX 3276
9789 REPORTED > >BY > > >
>STORM SPOTTER. > > > >(FTW) > > >
>0134 300 5 S >
>BRIDGEPORT
WISE
TX 3313
9776 REPORTED BY > > > >STORM
SPOTTER. > > > >(FTW) > > >
>0153 450
DECATUR
WISE
TX 3323 9760 >
> REPORTED BY HAM > > > >RADIO
OPERATOR. > > > >(FTW) > > > >Hail
Sizes in 1/100 of an Inch (75 = 0.75") > >Source --> >
><http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html>http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html > >OR >
>
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/020429_prt_rpts.html > > > >Cheers >
>--------------------------------------- > >Simon Angell >
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>To: <<mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com> >
>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:27 PM > >Subject: RE: aus-wx:
Tornado sweeps family into lake > > > Hi Tom and John, >
> > > > > From the type of storms they have over
there I do not doubt the existence > > > of sigificant giant
hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring several times each > > >
season particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not doubting
though > > > that there could be at least some slight
exaggeration in recording simply > > > by the rounding off of
hailsize to the nearest 0.5 inch. But let's say > > > there was
significant hail sizes reported and therefore they do exist and > >
> they are not so uncommon. My belief is that since supercells are
more > > > common in the US due to the higher frequencies of
wind shear and high cape > > > conditions, then significant hail
should occur more regularly. > > > > > > Of course,
any particular area being hit by the hail swathe is a much > > >
smaller probability but if we go by counties, then probabilities
increase. > > > I also do not doubt that such giant hail events
do occur in particular > > > areas of Australia - some are more
prone than others. The area SW of > > Camden > > >
near Oakdale receives severe hail at a higher frequency than other >
> > surrounding areas such as Sydney. SW and Central parts of Sydney
also > > seems > > > to have had more of the frequent
hail events than say the region I live > > and > > >
surrounds. It is extremely rare for supercell type of events to affect
my > > > area but the region in SW and Central Sydney is more
prone to such events > > > in my view based on the proximity to
topographic effects such as the > > region > > > near
Oakdale and just to the west. > > > > > > On a
similar note and getting back to the US, I was quite interested in >
> > reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's web site about storm
chasers' > > > beliefs that the panhandle region has a higher
density of tornadoes than > > > the statistical analyses suggest
(Oklahoma City as the epicentre). Well > > the > > >
tornado we got last year is officially recorded as F3 based on damage
to > > > one building and 2 cars picked up and thrown across the
4 lane highway > > (the > > > one we were travelling
on). I do believe the tornado was stronger than > > this >
> > simply by the shear size, structure and significant rotation of
the collar > > > cloud. So this is only one suspect example of
many in a relatively > > sparsely > > > populated area
of the US. > > > > > > Interesting
discussion. > > > > > > At 11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000,
you wrote: > > > >Hi Tom. > > > > > >
> >That I believe may be the case, and I had serious doubts about a
> > report of > > > >4.5" hail in Denver county
Colorado, which caused $0 damage. Denver > > county >
> > >is very small, just 150 odd sq kms and almost entirely built
up, so you > > > >would expect hail that size to do
significant damage, as per the famous > > > >Sydney
hailstorm. > > > > > > > >But Jimmy provided
this excellent link, > > > >http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm which shows some
nice photos of > > 2.5" > > > >and genuine 3" hail,
judged by using a ruler on my hand as compared to > > the >
> > >photos. But there is no claim in this article made about
the size of > > > >specific hailstones shown in the pics, so
it is hard to say if there > > is any > > >
>exaggeration or not. > > > > > > > >I have
witnessed hail of this size in SEQ on several occasions (no storm >
> > >chasing), but would have to say that for any particular
location (street) > > > >around Brisbane it would be an
approx 1 in 25 year event. > > > > > > >
>Regards, > > > >John W. > > > >
>snip > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >
>From: > > <mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com>aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > > > > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf
Of Tom Johnstone > > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15
AM > > > >To: <mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps
family into lake > > > > > > > > > >
> >At 01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell wrote: > > >
> >I Just had a quick look over SPC and on the 24-4-02 there was
> > 4.5inch hail > > > > >reported, thats
11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > >Now I'm not saying that those
reports are untrue (and they might have > > been > > >
>properly verified, I don't know). But in my time in the USA I have
> > noticed > > > >a cultural difference between
here and Australia. Whereas Aussies tend to > > > >understate
many things, here in the USA people like to exaggerate - and >
> > >they do it a lot. So unless 4.5 inches was verified, I would
have some > > > >doubts. > > > > > >
> >Cheers, > > > >Tom > > > > >
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----------------------------------------- > > > Jimmy
Deguara > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > >
> > > > from > > > Schofields, Sydney >
> > NSW Australia > > > > > >
e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > > > Web Page
with Michael Bath > > > > > > Australian Severe
Weather Home Page > > > > > <http://www.australiasevereweather.com>http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > President of the
Australian Severe Weather Association > > > <http://www.severeweather.asn.au>http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > >
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Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > >
e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael
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Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 04:00:08 May 2
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 04:03:43 +1000
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FreeWX 04:00:08
T:+14.3C H: 100% Bar:1020hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,074 Wavg:Calm,074
DP:+14.3C WC:+14C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+20.8C Hin:64%
****************************************************
Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
****************************************************
Weather Conditions at 04:00:08 May 2
Temperature: +14.3 °C
Humidity: 100 %
Wind Speed (gust): Calm
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 074°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 074°
Barometer: 1020 hPa and Steady
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: +14.3 °C
Wind Chill: +14 °C
Heat Index: n.a.
Indoor Temperature: +20.8 °C
Indoor Humidity: 64 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.3 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15
Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 04:00
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17
Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 04:00
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +15.2 °C at 09:36
Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25
Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04
Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +25.2 °C at 10:44
Minimum Temperature: +7.9 °C at 06:13
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 08:24
Minimum Humidity: 37 % at 13:50
Maximum Wind (gust): 8.5 KT, 48° at 13:03
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 11:21
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
Maximum Rainfall Rate: 1 mm/hour at 09:00
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 4 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +19.5 °C at 08:24
Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 13:50
Minimum Wind Chill: +8 °C at 06:45
Maximum Heat Index: +25.6 °C at 10:45
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35
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Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 08:00:08 May 2
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 08:03:44 +1000
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FreeWX 08:00:08
T:+20.1C H:61% Bar:1022hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,027 Wavg:Calm,027
DP:+12.3C WC:+20C HIx:+24.5C Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+23C Hin:61%
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Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
****************************************************
Weather Conditions at 08:00:08 May 2
Temperature: +20.1 °C
Humidity: 61 %
Wind Speed (gust): Calm
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 027°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 027°
Barometer: 1022 hPa and Steady
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: +12.3 °C
Wind Chill: +20 °C
Heat Index: +24.5 °C
Indoor Temperature: +23 °C
Indoor Humidity: 61 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +15.6 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: +4.5 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 975 meters. (3198 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15
Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:42
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17
Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 08:00
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +19.1 °C at 07:42
Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25
Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04
Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 07:13
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +25.2 °C at 10:44
Minimum Temperature: +7.9 °C at 06:13
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 08:24
Minimum Humidity: 37 % at 13:50
Maximum Wind (gust): 8.5 KT, 48° at 13:03
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 11:21
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
Maximum Rainfall Rate: 1 mm/hour at 09:00
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 4 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +19.5 °C at 08:24
Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 13:50
Minimum Wind Chill: +8 °C at 06:45
Maximum Heat Index: +25.6 °C at 10:45
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 07:13
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From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au
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Subject: aus-wx: cold weather
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:03:33 +1000
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all i can say is cold cold cold for the next three
days
From: "Glen O'Riley"
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: WM-918 Barometer Readings
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:16:15 +1000
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The standard reading is where you are, you can then
press the down button to get sea level.
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With the barametric pressure on
the WM-918 weather station, i've set the sea level pressure as listed at
Adelaide airport (in this case 1026 hPa) but when mine goes back to normal
display it reads 1013 hPa. What am i reading here or have i done something
wrong?
From: "Glen O'Riley"
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 00:00:08 May 2
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:17:13 +1000
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Can anyone tell me, is it possible to get 100% humidity of the night time
with fog etc. or is the sensor stuffed?
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Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 00:00:08 May 2
>
> FreeWX 00:00:08
> T:+14.1C H: 100% Bar:1019hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,103 Wavg:Calm,103
> DP:+14.1C WC:+14C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+20.9C Hin:62%
>
> ****************************************************
>
> Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
> ****************************************************
> Weather Conditions at 00:00:08 May 2
>
> Temperature: +14.1 °C
> Humidity: 100 %
> Wind Speed (gust): Calm
> Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
> Wind Direction: 103°
> Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 103°
> Barometer: 1019 hPa and Steady
> Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
> Dew Point: +14.1 °C
> Wind Chill: +14 °C
> Heat Index: n.a.
> Indoor Temperature: +20.9 °C
> Indoor Humidity: 62 %
> Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.1 °C
> Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C
> Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet)
>
>
> Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
>
> Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15
> Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43
> Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 00:00
> Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17
> Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39
> Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 23:51
> Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
> Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
> Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
> Maximum Dew Point: +15.2 °C at 09:36
> Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25
> Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04
> Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15
> Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25
> Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35
>
>
> Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
>
> Maximum Temperature: +25.2 °C at 10:44
> Minimum Temperature: +7.9 °C at 06:13
> Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 08:24
> Minimum Humidity: 37 % at 13:50
> Maximum Wind (gust): 8.5 KT, 48° at 13:03
> Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 11:21
> Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
> Maximum Rainfall Rate: 1 mm/hour at 09:00
> Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 4 mm
> Maximum Dew Point: +19.5 °C at 08:24
> Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 13:50
> Minimum Wind Chill: +8 °C at 06:45
> Maximum Heat Index: +25.6 °C at 10:45
> Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25
> Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35
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From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN"
To:
Subject: aus-wx: Monthly Weather at Gilmore A.C.T. Canberra
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:49:09 +1000
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IHi all, Hope this doesn't bounce around like the
last time!
Canberra Weather very dry and
stable in April. Rainfall was only 17.4 mm on 4 days (average 52mm) Mean Temp
for month 14.8 deg.(above the mean (13.3 deg.) Mean Max 21.4 (av. 19.7
deg.) Mean Min.8.2 deg (Av. 6.6 deg) Warmest day 25.5 deg 1402 13th coldest day
14.3 deg 1354 14th!
coldest morning 2.9 deg at 0635 6th. warmest nigt
12.1 deg on the 18th .A very quiet month , nothing in sig wx for whole month
Highest wind gust SW 53 km/hr 1742 21st. Unlike the Airport we did not record a
record Max on Anzac Day.We started recording in Canberra in 1981, present site
in 1991.
Outlook for next three months;
Rainfall below average, Max above average Mins below average.Snow Season on
Snowy Mountains looks bleak for start of the season. A poor snow cover
likely.Expect a very good season in NZ South Island!!
Gavin O'Brien
Southside Weather Watch.
Canberra A.C.T.
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From: "Liam Domanski"
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: What's a Tornado?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 11:16:42 +1000
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The whole media is dumb!!! Not just channel 10.
I think we need to hold a "WHAT IS A TORNADO?" seminar, and force all media
persons to attend it.
The penalty for not attending should be getting struck by a monster multi
pulse CG, then being hit by baseball sized hail, then meet a REAL F5
tornado. Either way, they'll learn!
Lol
Liam
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>Subject: aus-wx: What's a Tornado?
>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:11:03 +1000
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>storm is F4!!!
>
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From: "nandina morris"
To:
Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 11:52:13 +1000
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Maybe if we all gathered together on the east coat, with an oar, and of the
count of 3 ......shove! Huh :-)
Cheers,
Nandina
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From: Tony Langdon (VK3JED)
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
> At 09:28 PM 1/05/2002 +1200, you wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >That high over SE Australia is rudely fowling our weather (NZ). Could you
> >shift a bit further east please.
> >I like autumn sunshine. South of the South island is getting it worst
with
> >thunder and hail today and
> >snow down to 700m. Tomorrow, southwest gales and squally showers for
> >Invercargill.
>
> I'd happily nudge it across if I could, it's trapping smog over here. :-(
>
> And I like warm days with a northerly :)
>
> 73 de Tony, VK3JED
> http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net
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Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 12:00:08 May 2
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:03:46 +1000
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FreeWX 12:00:08
T:+24.1C H:38% Bar:1022hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,207 Wavg:Calm,215
DP:+8.9C WC:+24C HIx:+24.7C Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+26.4C Hin:42%
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Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
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Weather Conditions at 12:00:08 May 2
Temperature: +24.1 °C
Humidity: 38 %
Wind Speed (gust): Calm
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 207°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 215°
Barometer: 1022 hPa and Steady
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: +8.9 °C
Wind Chill: +24 °C
Heat Index: +24.7 °C
Indoor Temperature: +26.4 °C
Indoor Humidity: 42 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +16 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: +8.1 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 1900 meters. (6232 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 10:44
Minimum Temperature: +20.5 °C at 11:00
Maximum Humidity: 59 % at 10:13
Minimum Humidity: 35 % at 11:12
Maximum Wind (gust): 8.1 KT, 150° at 11:25
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 12:00
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 12:00
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +13 °C at 10:13
Minimum Dew Point: +7.4 °C at 11:36
Minimum Wind Chill: +19 °C at 10:59
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 11:42
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.8 °C at 09:01
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15
Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:42
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17
Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 08:59
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +19.1 °C at 07:42
Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25
Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04
Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 11:42
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.8 °C at 09:01
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From: "Chas & Helen Osborn"
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Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:24:51 +1000
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all i can say is cold cold cold for the next
three days
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 10:19:32 +0800
From: "Phil Smith"
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Humidity of 100% is actually quite common here.
When it happens, fog will form outdoors or indoors almost instantly and
water condenses all over the walls and ceilings indoors. If it continues
for too long, condensed water drips from the ceiling so it seems to be
raining indoors!
Most people here have to buy dehumidifiers for each room in their home.
Outdoors, when the humidity is 100%, everything constantly drips and the
ladies all complain that their washing will never dry.
Phil
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From: "Glen O'Riley"
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Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:17:13 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 00:00:08 May 2
> Can anyone tell me, is it possible to get 100% humidity of the night
> time
> with fog etc. or is the sensor stuffed?
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>
>
> >
> > FreeWX 00:00:08
> > T:+14.1C H: 100% Bar:1019hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,103 Wavg:Calm,103
> > DP:+14.1C WC:+14C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+20.9C Hin:62%
> >
> > ****************************************************
> >
> > Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
> > ****************************************************
> > Weather Conditions at 00:00:08 May 2
> >
> > Temperature: +14.1 °C
> > Humidity: 100 %
> > Wind Speed (gust): Calm
> > Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
> > Wind Direction: 103°
> > Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 103°
> > Barometer: 1019 hPa and Steady
> > Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
> > Dew Point: +14.1 °C
> > Wind Chill: +14 °C
> > Heat Index: n.a.
> > Indoor Temperature: +20.9 °C
> > Indoor Humidity: 62 %
> > Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.1 °C
> > Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C
> > Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet)
> >
> >
> > Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
> >
> > Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15
> > Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43
> > Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 00:00
> > Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17
> > Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39
> > Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 23:51
> > Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
> > Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
> > Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
> > Maximum Dew Point: +15.2 °C at 09:36
> > Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25
> > Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04
> > Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15
> > Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25
> > Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35
> >
> >
> > Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
> >
> > Maximum Temperature: +25.2 °C at 10:44
> > Minimum Temperature: +7.9 °C at 06:13
> > Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 08:24
> > Minimum Humidity: 37 % at 13:50
> > Maximum Wind (gust): 8.5 KT, 48° at 13:03
> > Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 11:21
> > Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
> > Maximum Rainfall Rate: 1 mm/hour at 09:00
> > Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 4 mm
> > Maximum Dew Point: +19.5 °C at 08:24
> > Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 13:50
> > Minimum Wind Chill: +8 °C at 06:45
> > Maximum Heat Index: +25.6 °C at 10:45
> > Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25
> > Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35
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From: "Stargazer"
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: cold weather
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:22:01 +0930
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Not here.. sunny & 25c today & 26c then
till Sunday..
Regs, Paul.
(Stargazer)
Adelaide, SA
ps. Need a good electrical thunder storm to roll
through :)
all i can say is cold cold cold for the next
three days
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: What Weather Station?
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:16:39 +0930
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DSE = Dick Smith Electronics
www.dse.com.au but their web site is offline at the moment - "closed for
maintenance" the site says :(
Advanced Home Weather Station
Model : WM-918
Cat No. D3960
$398rrp. On sale this month (May) starting this Thursday 2/5/02 for $298
(well, here in Adelaide anyway but should be nationally) but i don't know
how long the sale goes for - a week?
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: What Weather Station?
> Paul
>
> I have been after a good weather station for a while. Is this one
advertised
> on the net? What's the DSE?
>
> Peter T
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Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:57:50 +0800
From: "Phil Smith"
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Here too...
"Fine and Hot" is forecast for the next five days:
FRI 25-30C 70-90%
SAT 25-30C 70-90%
SUN 25-29C 75-95%
MON 25-30C 70-90%
TUE 25-30C 70-90%
Put on the air-con and go to sleep is the best way I can think of to deal
with that. Trouble is, I have to go to work!
Phil
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Stargazer"
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Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:22:01 +0930
Subject: Re: aus-wx: cold weather
> Not here.. sunny & 25c today & 26c then till Sunday..
>
> Regs, Paul.
> (Stargazer)
>
> Adelaide, SA
>
> ps. Need a good electrical thunder storm to roll through :)
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:33 AM
> Subject: aus-wx: cold weather
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> all i can say is cold cold cold for the next three days
>
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From: Blair Trewin
Subject: Re: aus-wx: cold weather
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>
> Here too...
> "Fine and Hot" is forecast for the next five days:
> FRI 25-30C 70-90%
> SAT 25-30C 70-90%
> SUN 25-29C 75-95%
> MON 25-30C 70-90%
> TUE 25-30C 70-90%
>
> Put on the air-con and go to sleep is the best way I can think of to deal
> with that. Trouble is, I have to go to work!
>
I once went for a 40-minute run in Hong Kong in August and finished it
3kg lighter than I started....
Blair
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Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 2
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 16:03:48 +1000
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FreeWX 16:00:08
T:+20.3C H:49% Bar:1020hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,128 Wavg:Calm,151
DP:+9.2C WC:+20C HIx:+24.2C Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+25.7C Hin:43%
****************************************************
Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
****************************************************
Weather Conditions at 16:00:08 May 2
Temperature: +20.3 °C
Humidity: 49 %
Wind Speed (gust): Calm
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 128°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 151°
Barometer: 1020 hPa and Steady
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: +9.2 °C
Wind Chill: +20 °C
Heat Index: +24.2 °C
Indoor Temperature: +25.7 °C
Indoor Humidity: 43 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.3 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: +6 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 1387 meters. (4551 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02
Minimum Temperature: +20.2 °C at 15:58
Maximum Humidity: 59 % at 10:13
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21
Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 12:06
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 16:00
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +13 °C at 10:13
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32
Minimum Wind Chill: +19 °C at 15:42
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27.3 °C at 13:43
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.7 °C at 16:00
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15
Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:42
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17
Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 08:59
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +19.1 °C at 07:42
Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25
Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04
Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27.3 °C at 13:43
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.7 °C at 16:00
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Subject: aus-wx: The Annual rain for summer 2002 Maroochydore
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 16:35:51 +1000
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Hi Blair,
Well my advice to you is not to run next time:)))
Yes those parts of Asia area extremely humid and I suppose Darwin is as well.
Jimmy Deguara
At 03:08 PM 2/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> >
> > Here too...
> > "Fine and Hot" is forecast for the next five days:
> > FRI 25-30C 70-90%
> > SAT 25-30C 70-90%
> > SUN 25-29C 75-95%
> > MON 25-30C 70-90%
> > TUE 25-30C 70-90%
> >
> > Put on the air-con and go to sleep is the best way I can think of to deal
> > with that. Trouble is, I have to go to work!
> >
>
>I once went for a 40-minute run in Hong Kong in August and finished it
>3kg lighter than I started....
>
>Blair
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From: "Stargazer"
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Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:48:14 +0930
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> On sale this month (May) starting this Thursday 2/5/02 for $298
> (well, here in Adelaide anyway but should be nationally) but i don't know
> how long the sale goes for - a week?
Sale ends Wednesday 29/5/02
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
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Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 20:00:08 May 2
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FreeWX 20:00:08
T:+15.5C H:93% Bar:1022hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,070 Wavg:Calm,070
DP:+14.4C WC:+16C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+23.2C Hin:55%
****************************************************
Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
****************************************************
Weather Conditions at 20:00:08 May 2
Temperature: +15.5 °C
Humidity: 93 %
Wind Speed (gust): Calm
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 070°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 070°
Barometer: 1022 hPa and Steady
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: +14.4 °C
Wind Chill: +16 °C
Heat Index: n.a.
Indoor Temperature: +23.2 °C
Indoor Humidity: 55 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.8 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: + 00.7 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 137 meters. (450 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02
Minimum Temperature: +15.5 °C at 20:00
Maximum Humidity: 93 % at 20:00
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21
Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 20:00
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +14.4 °C at 20:00
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32
Minimum Wind Chill: +16 °C at 20:00
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27.3 °C at 13:43
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +23.2 °C at 20:00
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15
Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:42
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17
Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 08:59
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +19.1 °C at 07:42
Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25
Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04
Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27.3 °C at 13:43
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +23.2 °C at 20:00
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That could be hard. i mean it is blowing so heard i have to tie my self down
i on the 3th floor lol
----- Original Message -----
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To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
> Hi,
> That high over SE Australia is rudely fowling our weather (NZ). Could you
> shift a bit further east please.
> I like autumn sunshine. South of the South island is getting it worst with
> thunder and hail today and
> snow down to 700m. Tomorrow, southwest gales and squally showers for
> Invercargill.
> Bye
> Steven W
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Barnett"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 9:04 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
>
>
> > Interesting too that such blocking highs are more usual over NZ
especially
> > in summer or spring..does this mean we can expect one in June over Bass
> > Strait with an east coast low...?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
> >
> >
> > > At 06:12 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Good evening all hows life treating you.
> > > >from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers intill friday and
> > > >increasing to rain intill sunday. from sunday.
> > >
> > > Well, in Melbourne, looks like that high is going to remain parked
here
> > for
> > > another week. We'll have to issue a few parking tickets! :)
> > >
> > > I recall some lingering highs, but this one takes the cake - expected
to
> > > hang around for at least another week!!!
> > >
> > > The problem is the inversions it brings (great for VHF/UHF radio) are
> also
> > > trapping smog. I'll be glad to get a couple of days up in Sydney from
> > > tomorrow. :)
> > >
> > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED
> > > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net
> > >
> >
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Don't you no what a tronado is damm i fort i was nut
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> Channel 10 seems to think that a tornado is a storm(not a part of a
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> that they happen at random(not connected to storms) and that a rating for
a
> storm is F4!!!
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> David
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Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:05:48 +1000
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Sunshine coast Maroochydore were its still wet and
cold i'm on the 3th floor and the wind man it's blowin like madness out there
time is 9:05 pm and temps out side 21.1 drgs.
all i can say is cold cold cold for the next
three days
From: "Paul Yole"
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Subject: aus-wx: Severe Plot v2.0
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:30:01 +1000
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Hey All.
Doing some general browsing lately, and I ran across this program on the SPC site.
The program is called SeverePlot v2.0 and it is a graphical database of severe thunderstorm and tornado occurrences in the United
States. Datafiles are available from 1950 - 1998, with annual updates expected around May of each year. They have just released a
update which now includes reports for 2000 as well (Hopefully another update will be out soon).
It's a 8.4mb file (Which takes a bit to download on my 56kbps dial-up), but it's quite interesting...a definite for those interested
in past severe weather. (Jimmy...you HAVE to have a look at this)
You can download it from the following:
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/software/svrplot2/
The update is also linked to the page.
PaulY
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Good onya Liam!
That's the spirit!!!!!!
My sentiments precisely.
Max
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Domanski
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 11:17 AM
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: What's a Tornado?
The whole media is dumb!!! Not just channel 10.
I think we need to hold a "WHAT IS A TORNADO?" seminar, and force all
media
persons to attend it.
The penalty for not attending should be getting struck by a monster
multi
pulse CG, then being hit by baseball sized hail, then meet a REAL F5
tornado. Either way, they'll learn!
Lol
Liam
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>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:11:03 +1000
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>Channel 10 seems to think that a tornado is a storm(not a part of a
storm),
>that they happen at random(not connected to storms) and that a rating
for a
>storm is F4!!!
>
>David
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From: Jimmy Deguara
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
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Hey guys,
Check this out for hail:)
http://www.cyclonejim.com/index.htm the main page
http://www.cyclonejim.com/jimvideoclipindex.htm check out the small videos
including the hail
Jimmy Deguara
At 01:58 AM 2/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>I had replied earlier, but they havent seemed tohave come throus, so ill
>cut and paste it here
>
>I asked for verfication on his earlier comment and his response was.
>---------------------------------------
>[19:15:50] I guess I mean both...the number of events and the
>size of the hail. I've seen some data that suggests the hail in
>India/Mongolia/China is the largest in the world.
>
>I have asked him about the database, and just waiting for a response
>
>---------------------------------
>His response to the validity is...
>[20:39:33] the reports in that database (US) are very valid
>
>Cheers
>---------------------------------------
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>Canberra, ACT
>www.canberra-wx.com
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>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:46 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
>
>Hi Simon,
>
>Ok. So ask this person about the validity of the reports in the database
>which initially started this thread. I don't doubt that these counties
>including Australia don't get such giant hail events - after all Casino,
>Kingslcliff and Sydney are recent examples. I would also add Bangladesh
>into the equation with heat within the tropics and let's say sufficient
>windshear being the main reason why such giant hail can exist there. But
>the warmer temperatures should help in melting some of the hail so perhaps
>it would occur more in the elevated regions?? I am still in the process of
>studying the events there. I think David Croan would be in a better
>position to discuss some of the literature regards severe weather that is
>associated with the area.
>
>The database link is:
>
>http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/wwcgi.dll?wwevent~storms
>
>There are exceptional giant hail events of 5" and greater. Have these been
>verified? I think the Sydney hailstorm has now been accepted as having
>produced the largest hailstones officially in Australia - 11 - 12cm. The
>14cm hail report from Kempsey has been discounted because it was not measured.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>At 07:13 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>>His Actual Comment...
>>[16:11:16] yes, 4.5" hail does exist
>>[16:11:46] infact, I'm surprised you asked that Canberra-Wx
>>because our studies have shown that parts of AU, China, and India have
>>bigger hail then we do
>>
>>I assume he meant that we get bigger hail then they get....
>>
>>Also, i was watching strom warning of the discovery channel a little
>>earlier, and a Met from the US went on a chase and got caught up in a
>>hail storm, from the footage i saw most has was 1 to 2 inches, but the
>>rear window got smashed then seconds later the front got shattered,
>>although it was still in the frame *just*, the Met said it would have
>>been 5" hail that bounced off the bonnet and hit the windscreen.. Toward
>>the end of the story it showed a peice of giant hail in a person hand and
>>said "this 3" hail..." to me however it looked 2" max as was smaller
>>than the hand it was on!!!!
>>Cheers
>>---------------------------------------
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>>Canberra, ACT
>>www.canberra-wx.com
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>>From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
>>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:32 PM
>>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
>> > At 04:27 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>> > >Hi all
>> > >I asked an IRC buddy about the 4.5" hail (he is a US met)..
>> > >he said that 4.5" hail does exist and infact studies he has been
>> involved
>> > >in have shown that larger hail has fallen in parts of AU, China, and
>> India...
>> >
>> > Could you refine your comment here. I am not sure whether you are
>> > suggesting if "larger" hail has fallen in AU China and India or you are
>> > referring generally to sunstantial giant hail events in these
>> countries. I
>> > suspect the latter. By the way, we call these exceptionaly giant tile
>> > smashign hail as "gorilla hail". I love it:)))))
>> >
>> > >
>> > >As for the rounding to the nearest .50 of an inch, i think that it is
>> > >mainly rounded to the nearest 0.25 of an inch with exception of smailler
>> > >reports which have 0.88 size.
>> > >
>> > >We also have to remember that all they need is 1 stone of 4.5" to report
>> > >it, so Avg size may have been 1 or 2 inches and then there was a 4.5"
>> > >stone that fell near a spotter....
>> >
>> > Thanks for the verification from your IRC buddy. As I said, I don't doubt
>> > any of these readings in particular based on the arguments in my previous
>> > e-mails. I do of course know there can be some exaggeration.
>> >
>> > Though I think most events that are able to produce the giant hail event
>> > would not usually do it in an isolated manner - well not from my
>> > observations over the years. However, structurally, HP supercells in
>> > particular begin with the "relatively" smaller hail (usually more
>> isolated)
>> > but then become larger as the main core passes over in their mature stage
>> > and falling more in torrents. I suspect LP supercells tend to drop less
>> > hail but can dump some giant stuff. I am not sure if there is such an
>> > organised structure. Classic supercells (or should I say supercells in
>> > their classic stage) are not renowned for the largest giant hail
>> events but
>> > I would not take any risks. I am wondering (suspect) if "extremely" high
>> > windshear situations which are more aligned to the classic tornadic
>> > supercells are less likely to produce the extreme giant hail events.
>> >
>> > Getting back to the original purpose of the post, I again do not doubt
>> the
>> > extent of the giant hail reported in the US since they are posting
>> warnings
>> > of hail to 2", 3" and 4" and like I said I have seen 5" warning. Usually
>> > somewhere, spotters verify something of such a nature as Simon has
>> pointed
>> > out just in recent examples.
>> >
>> > This has been an interesting thread.
>> >
>> > Jimmy Deguara
>> >
>> >
>> > >Cheers
>> > >---------------------------------------
>> > >Simon Angell
>> > >Canberra, ACT
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>> on Angell
>> > >To:
>> <aussie-weather at world.std.com>mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>
>> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:54 AM
>> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
>> > >
>> > >Having a look at SPC again this morning, AGAIN 4.5inch hail was
>> reported on
>> > >th 29-4-02 this time
>> > >
>> > >TIME | SIZE | LOCATION | COUNTY | STATE | LAT |
>> LONG |
>> > >COMMENTS
>> > >0133 275 5 W
>> WEATHERFORD PARKER TX 3276 9789 REPORTED
>> > >BY
>> > >
>> > >STORM SPOTTER.
>> > >
>> > >(FTW)
>> > >
>> > >0134 300 5 S
>> > >BRIDGEPORT WISE TX 3313 9776 REPORTED BY
>> > >
>> > >STORM SPOTTER.
>> > >
>> > >(FTW)
>> > >
>> > >0153 450 DECATUR WISE TX 3323
>> 9760
>> > > REPORTED BY HAM
>> > >
>> > >RADIO OPERATOR.
>> > >
>> > >(FTW)
>> > >
>> > >Hail Sizes in 1/100 of an Inch (75 = 0.75")
>> > >Source -->
>> > ><http://www.spc.
>> noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html>http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html>http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html
>>
>> > >OR
>> > >
>> http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/020429_prt_rpts.html
>>
>> > >
>> > >Cheers
>> > >---------------------------------------
>> > >Simon Angell
>> > >Canberra, ACT
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>> > >From: "Jimmy Deguara"
>> <<jdeguara at ihug.com.au>mailto:jdeguara at ihug.com.au>jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
>>
>> > >To:
>> <<aussie-weather at world.std.com>mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>>
>> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:27 PM
>> > >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
>> > > > Hi Tom and John,
>> > > >
>> > > > From the type of storms they have over there I do not doubt the
>> existence
>> > > > of sigificant giant hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring several
>> times each
>> > > > season particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not doubting
>> though
>> > > > that there could be at least some slight exaggeration in recording
>> simply
>> > > > by the rounding off of hailsize to the nearest 0.5 inch. But let's
>> say
>> > > > there was significant hail sizes reported and therefore they do
>> exist and
>> > > > they are not so uncommon. My belief is that since supercells are more
>> > > > common in the US due to the higher frequencies of wind shear and
>> high cape
>> > > > conditions, then significant hail should occur more regularly.
>> > > >
>> > > > Of course, any particular area being hit by the hail swathe is a much
>> > > > smaller probability but if we go by counties, then probabilities
>> increase.
>> > > > I also do not doubt that such giant hail events do occur in
>> particular
>> > > > areas of Australia - some are more prone than others. The area SW of
>> > > Camden
>> > > > near Oakdale receives severe hail at a higher frequency than other
>> > > > surrounding areas such as Sydney. SW and Central parts of Sydney also
>> > > seems
>> > > > to have had more of the frequent hail events than say the region I
>> live
>> > > and
>> > > > surrounds. It is extremely rare for supercell type of events to
>> affect my
>> > > > area but the region in SW and Central Sydney is more prone to such
>> events
>> > > > in my view based on the proximity to topographic effects such as the
>> > > region
>> > > > near Oakdale and just to the west.
>> > > >
>> > > > On a similar note and getting back to the US, I was quite
>> interested in
>> > > > reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's web site about storm chasers'
>> > > > beliefs that the panhandle region has a higher density of
>> tornadoes than
>> > > > the statistical analyses suggest (Oklahoma City as the epicentre).
>> Well
>> > > the
>> > > > tornado we got last year is officially recorded as F3 based on
>> damage to
>> > > > one building and 2 cars picked up and thrown across the 4 lane
>> highway
>> > > (the
>> > > > one we were travelling on). I do believe the tornado was stronger
>> than
>> > > this
>> > > > simply by the shear size, structure and significant rotation of
>> the collar
>> > > > cloud. So this is only one suspect example of many in a relatively
>> > > sparsely
>> > > > populated area of the US.
>> > > >
>> > > > Interesting discussion.
>> > > >
>> > > > At 11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>> > > > >Hi Tom.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >That I believe may be the case, and I had serious doubts about a
>> > > report of
>> > > > >4.5" hail in Denver county Colorado, which caused $0 damage. Denver
>> > > county
>> > > > >is very small, just 150 odd sq kms and almost entirely built up,
>> so you
>> > > > >would expect hail that size to do significant damage, as per the
>> famous
>> > > > >Sydney hailstorm.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >But Jimmy provided this excellent link,
>> > > > >http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm which shows some nice
>> photos of
>> > > 2.5"
>> > > > >and genuine 3" hail, judged by using a ruler on my hand as
>> compared to
>> > > the
>> > > > >photos. But there is no claim in this article made about the
>> size of
>> > > > >specific hailstones shown in the pics, so it is hard to say if there
>> > > is any
>> > > > >exaggeration or not.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >I have witnessed hail of this size in SEQ on several occasions
>> (no storm
>> > > > >chasing), but would have to say that for any particular location
>> (street)
>> > > > >around Brisbane it would be an approx 1 in 25 year event.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Regards,
>> > > > >John W.
>> > > > > >snip
>> > > > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > > >From:
>> > >
>> <aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com>mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com>aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>>
>> > >
>> > > > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tom
>> Johnstone
>> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15 AM
>> > > > >To:
>> <aussie-weather at world.std.com>mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>
>> > > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >At 01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell wrote:
>> > > > > >I Just had a quick look over SPC and on the 24-4-02 there was
>> > > 4.5inch hail
>> > > > > >reported, thats 11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> > > > >Now I'm not saying that those reports are untrue (and they might
>> have
>> > > been
>> > > > >properly verified, I don't know). But in my time in the USA I have
>> > > noticed
>> > > > >a cultural difference between here and Australia. Whereas Aussies
>> tend to
>> > > > >understate many things, here in the USA people like to
>> exaggerate - and
>> > > > >they do it a lot. So unless 4.5 inches was verified, I would have
>> some
>> > > > >doubts.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Cheers,
>> > > > >Tom
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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>> > > >
>> > > > -----------------------------------------
>> > > > Jimmy Deguara
>> > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>> > > >
>> > > > from
>> > > > Schofields, Sydney
>> > > > NSW Australia
>> > > >
>> > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>> > > >
>> > > > Web Page with Michael Bath
>> > > >
>> > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page
>> > > >
>> > >
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>>
>> > > >
>> > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association
>> > > >
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>> > > >
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------------
>> > Jimmy Deguara
>> > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>> >
>> > from
>> > Schofields, Sydney
>> > NSW Australia
>> >
>> > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>> >
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>> >
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>-----------------------------------------
>Jimmy Deguara
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>
>from
>Schofields, Sydney
>NSW Australia
>
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>
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Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
from
Schofields, Sydney
NSW Australia
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HI All.
Just saw advert for a Tornado Alley tv
doco on Sunday 7.30pm on Prime tv (7).
Bathurst
Dave
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Yep, ill be taping it :::::), I dont think ive
seen this one before ::::::)
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Just saw advert for a Tornado Alley tv
doco on Sunday 7.30pm on Prime tv (7).
Bathurst
Dave
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Subject: aus-wx: NZ winds
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:10:03 +1000
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It's hang onto your hats time!!!
Issued by the MetService in New Zealand.....
SEVERE WEATHER WARNING
ISSUED BY MetService AT 8:33 am 03-May-2002
{MEDIA}
MORE SEVERE GALES FORECAST FOR THE SOUTH
Very strong and gusty west to southwesterly winds have been affecting parts
of eastern Otago, Southland and Stewart Island this morning. MetService is
expecting these winds to have eased in most places by midday, but is warning
of another period of blustery westerlies in these areas again tomorrow
(Saturday). West to southwesterly winds have been gusting up to 130 km/h in
some places this morning, and similar wind gusts are forecast tomorrow,
especially about coastal parts of Otago and Southland from Otago Peninsula
southwards. Forecasters warn that winds of this strength can cause damage to
trees, small buildings and lift loose roofing materials, as well provide
difficult driving conditions to trucks, caravans and other motorists.
Jane
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Subject: aus-wx: Nice steady Rain in Sydney's North
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I'm receiving some nice steady rain at my place at the moment between
Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River.
The Rain Guage only measures 1mm at the moment but hompefully the rain keeps
up, the garden needs it!
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Hey all
I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are experiencing
now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm not going
to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet!
However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest time one
of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are going
to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months??? (surely
not?).
Anyone?
Phil
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It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving me nuts
Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it Historically
recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south east winds
in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing the
sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you
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From: "Phil Bagust"
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> Hey all
>
> I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are experiencing
> now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm not
going
> to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet!
>
> However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest time one
> of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are going
> to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months??? (surely
> not?).
>
> Anyone?
>
> Phil
>
>
> Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au
> - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - -
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Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 12:02:35 +1000
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Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 12:00:08 May 3
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FreeWX 12:00:08
T:+21.4C H:46% Bar:1022hPa,Steady Wgst:5.1KT,002 Wavg:3.9KT,019
DP:+9.3C WC:+20C HIx:+24.2C Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+27.9C Hin:40%
****************************************************
Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
****************************************************
Weather Conditions at 12:00:08 May 3
Temperature: +21.4 °C
Humidity: 46 %
Wind Speed (gust): 5.1 KT
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): 3.9 KT
Wind Direction: 002°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 019°
Barometer: 1022 hPa and Steady
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: +9.3 °C
Wind Chill: +20 °C
Heat Index: +24.2 °C
Indoor Temperature: +27.9 °C
Indoor Humidity: 40 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.9 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: +6.5 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 1512 meters. (4960 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08
Minimum Temperature: +21.4 °C at 12:00
Maximum Humidity: 62 % at 09:09
Minimum Humidity: 34 % at 11:28
Maximum Wind (gust): 7.7 KT, 24° at 11:29
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 12:00
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09
Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 11:28
Minimum Wind Chill: +20 °C at 12:00
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.1 °C at 09:01
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02
Minimum Temperature: +10.4 °C at 06:34
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:56
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21
Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 08:59
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +18.3 °C at 07:56
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32
Minimum Wind Chill: +10 °C at 06:34
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.1 °C at 09:01
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Updated: 12:00 PM EST on May 03, 2002 Observed at
Maroochydore, Australia
Temperature
71° F / 22° C
Humidity
74%
Dew Point
63° F / 17° C
Wind
SE at 23 mph / 37.0 km/h
Pressure
30.29 in / 1026 hPa
Conditions
Unknown
Sunrise
06:09 AM (EST)
Sunset
05:13 PM (EST)
Moonrise
10:43 PM (EST)
Moonset
11:59 AM (EST)
Today High: 73° F / 23° C Rain
Tonight Low: 69° F / 21° C Chance of Rain
Saturday High: 73° F / 23° C Rain
Saturday Night Low: 69° F / 21° C Rain
Sunday High: 75° F / 24° C Chance of Rain
Sunday Night Low: 71° F / 22° C Scattered Clouds
Monday High: 75° F / 24° C Clear
Monday Night Low: 73° F / 23° C Clear
Tuesday High: 75° F / 24° C Scattered Clouds
Tuesday Night Low: 69° F / 21° C Chance of Rain
Wednesday High: 73° F / 23° C Scattered Clouds
Wednesday Night Low: 69° F / 21° C Scattered Clouds
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Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 13:38:10 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NZ winds
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Re: aus-wx: NZ winds
Chain yourself to the earth it seems Jane!
O_O
From: "Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com> Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:10:03 +1000 To: "Aus Wx" <aussie-weather at world.std.com> Subject: aus-wx: NZ winds
It's hang onto your hats time!!!
Issued by the MetService in New Zealand.....
SEVERE WEATHER WARNING
ISSUED BY MetService AT 8:33 am 03-May-2002
{MEDIA}
MORE SEVERE GALES FORECAST FOR THE SOUTH
Very strong and gusty west to southwesterly winds have been affecting parts
of eastern Otago, Southland and Stewart Island this morning. MetService is
expecting these winds to have eased in most places by midday, but is warning
of another period of blustery westerlies in these areas again tomorrow
(Saturday). West to southwesterly winds have been gusting up to 130 km/h in
some places this morning, and similar wind gusts are forecast tomorrow,
especially about coastal parts of Otago and Southland from Otago Peninsula
southwards. Forecasters warn that winds of this strength can cause damage to
trees, small buildings and lift loose roofing materials, as well provide
difficult driving conditions to trucks, caravans and other motorists.
Jane
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FreeWX 16:00:08
T:+20.7C H:48% Bar:1020hPa,Steady Wgst:2.8KT,054 Wavg:Calm,045
DP:+9.3C WC:+21C HIx:+24.2C Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+25.7C Hin:42%
****************************************************
Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
****************************************************
Weather Conditions at 16:00:08 May 3
Temperature: +20.7 °C
Humidity: 48 %
Wind Speed (gust): 2.8 KT
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 054°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 045°
Barometer: 1020 hPa and Steady
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: +9.3 °C
Wind Chill: +21 °C
Heat Index: +24.2 °C
Indoor Temperature: +25.7 °C
Indoor Humidity: 42 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.6 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: +6.1 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 1424 meters. (4673 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08
Minimum Temperature: +19.8 °C at 15:30
Maximum Humidity: 62 % at 09:09
Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06
Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 16:00
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06
Minimum Wind Chill: +19 °C at 15:54
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.1 °C at 09:01
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02
Minimum Temperature: +10.4 °C at 06:34
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:56
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21
Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 08:59
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +18.3 °C at 07:56
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32
Minimum Wind Chill: +10 °C at 06:34
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.1 °C at 09:01
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From: "Keith Barnett"
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Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 18:15:37 +1000
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This might be why.
http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving me
nuts
> Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it
Historically
> recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south east
winds
> in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing the
> sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Bagust"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
>
>
> > Hey all
> >
> > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are
experiencing
> > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm not
> going
> > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet!
> >
> > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest time
one
> > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are
going
> > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months??? (surely
> > not?).
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au
> > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - -
> > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward
> >
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Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 18:37:48 +1000
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Keith
That's a great synoptic shot.
It appears that the other blocking high to the east of NZ is in break down
phase - gradually being worn down by those lows to the west.
Look at those tight isobars over southern NZ (whow !). Windy down there or
what ?????
Our blocking high over SE Aust. appears as a consequence of the whole set
up.
I expect a NE drift into the northern Tasman /southern Coral Sea with some
fluctation in intensity over the next few days as lows try to push around
the system to the south.
Enjoying the heavy showery autumnal weather in SE QLD.
Regards
Simon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Barnett"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> This might be why.
>
> http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
>
>
> > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving me
> nuts
> > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it
> Historically
> > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south east
> winds
> > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing the
> > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Phil Bagust"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> >
> >
> > > Hey all
> > >
> > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are
> experiencing
> > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm not
> > going
> > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet!
> > >
> > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest time
> one
> > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are
> going
> > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months???
(surely
> > > not?).
> > >
> > > Anyone?
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > >
> > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au:
Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au
> > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at
www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - -
> > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward
> > >
> > >
> > >
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From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au
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Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 19:33:08 +1000
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Keith i guess thats why we are getting a lot of rain here
that was a great shot chart.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Clarke"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> Keith
>
> That's a great synoptic shot.
>
> It appears that the other blocking high to the east of NZ is in break down
> phase - gradually being worn down by those lows to the west.
>
> Look at those tight isobars over southern NZ (whow !). Windy down there or
> what ?????
>
> Our blocking high over SE Aust. appears as a consequence of the whole set
> up.
>
> I expect a NE drift into the northern Tasman /southern Coral Sea with some
> fluctation in intensity over the next few days as lows try to push around
> the system to the south.
>
> Enjoying the heavy showery autumnal weather in SE QLD.
>
> Regards
> Simon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Barnett"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:15 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
>
>
> > This might be why.
> >
> > http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> >
> >
> > > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving me
> > nuts
> > > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it
> > Historically
> > > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south east
> > winds
> > > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing the
> > > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Phil Bagust"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey all
> > > >
> > > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are
> > experiencing
> > > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm
not
> > > going
> > > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet!
> > > >
> > > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest
time
> > one
> > > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are
> > going
> > > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months???
> (surely
> > > > not?).
> > > >
> > > > Anyone?
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au:
> Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au
> > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at
> www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - -
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Yes. There is a further intense depression south of the Falkland Islands and
there appears to be some scope for the low south of the other blocking high
to get a wriggle on and probably catch up with or be absorbed by that
depression. This might all free up the traffic jam over NSW. I can recall
occasions when prolonged spells of light winds in Sydney were followed by
outbreaks of windy weather and a sizeable drop in the daily pressure
readings, as if a statistical correction is taking place. So we shouldn't be
surprised if winter arrives in the next 10 days, just like the last 2 years
in May only a week or two earlier.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Clarke"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> Keith
>
> That's a great synoptic shot.
>
> It appears that the other blocking high to the east of NZ is in break down
> phase - gradually being worn down by those lows to the west.
>
> Look at those tight isobars over southern NZ (whow !). Windy down there or
> what ?????
>
> Our blocking high over SE Aust. appears as a consequence of the whole set
> up.
>
> I expect a NE drift into the northern Tasman /southern Coral Sea with some
> fluctation in intensity over the next few days as lows try to push around
> the system to the south.
>
> Enjoying the heavy showery autumnal weather in SE QLD.
>
> Regards
> Simon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Barnett"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:15 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
>
>
> > This might be why.
> >
> > http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> >
> >
> > > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving me
> > nuts
> > > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it
> > Historically
> > > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south east
> > winds
> > > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing the
> > > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Phil Bagust"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey all
> > > >
> > > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are
> > experiencing
> > > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm
not
> > > going
> > > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet!
> > > >
> > > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest
time
> > one
> > > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are
> > going
> > > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months???
> (surely
> > > > not?).
> > > >
> > > > Anyone?
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au:
> Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au
> > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at
> www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - -
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> > > >
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Yes Michael, all with the help of that upper trough that spawned a few Cbs
off Sydney this morning. The maps by the way are from the NZ weather bureau
site.
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> Keith i guess thats why we are getting a lot of rain here
> that was a great shot chart.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Clarke"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:37 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
>
>
> > Keith
> >
> > That's a great synoptic shot.
> >
> > It appears that the other blocking high to the east of NZ is in break
down
> > phase - gradually being worn down by those lows to the west.
> >
> > Look at those tight isobars over southern NZ (whow !). Windy down there
or
> > what ?????
> >
> > Our blocking high over SE Aust. appears as a consequence of the whole
set
> > up.
> >
> > I expect a NE drift into the northern Tasman /southern Coral Sea with
some
> > fluctation in intensity over the next few days as lows try to push
around
> > the system to the south.
> >
> > Enjoying the heavy showery autumnal weather in SE QLD.
> >
> > Regards
> > Simon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Keith Barnett"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> >
> >
> > > This might be why.
> > >
> > > http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> > >
> > >
> > > > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving
me
> > > nuts
> > > > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it
> > > Historically
> > > > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south
east
> > > winds
> > > > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing
the
> > > > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Phil Bagust"
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hey all
> > > > >
> > > > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are
> > > experiencing
> > > > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm
> not
> > > > going
> > > > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet!
> > > > >
> > > > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest
> time
> > > one
> > > > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we
are
> > > going
> > > > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months???
> > (surely
> > > > > not?).
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone?
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au:
> > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au
> > > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at
> > www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - -
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> > > > >
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FreeWX 20:00:08
T:+15.1C H:97% Bar:1022hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,168 Wavg:Calm,168
DP:+14.6C WC:+15C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+21.9C Hin:62%
****************************************************
Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
****************************************************
Weather Conditions at 20:00:08 May 3
Temperature: +15.1 °C
Humidity: 97 %
Wind Speed (gust): Calm
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 168°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 168°
Barometer: 1022 hPa and Steady
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: +14.6 °C
Wind Chill: +15 °C
Heat Index: n.a.
Indoor Temperature: +21.9 °C
Indoor Humidity: 62 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.8 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: + 00.3 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 62 meters. (205 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08
Minimum Temperature: +14.1 °C at 18:54
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 19:59
Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06
Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 16:51
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06
Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 18:59
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +21.8 °C at 19:36
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02
Minimum Temperature: +10.4 °C at 06:34
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:56
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21
Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 08:59
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +18.3 °C at 07:56
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32
Minimum Wind Chill: +10 °C at 06:34
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +21.8 °C at 19:36
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From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
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At 12:47 PM 1/05/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi Tony,
>
> No, to put it bluntly you won't want to be here either, Sydney
> is also going through a chronic stage of boring, calm, dry, dirty
> weather. Add a few more cars than in Melbourne, a few more people and
> that same bloody High and inversion layer and you have one very dirty
> situation, not a breath of wind either. I suggest perhaps a trip
> out Jimmy Deguaras way, i hear they have some severe fogs out there even
> the odd 'superfog'......
Well, I've just returned from Sydney, and conditions were somewhat more
pleasant than that. A very slight breeze (more of a breeze today, even the
odd shower in the mountains). It is worth noting that when I left
Melbourne yesterday morning, the inversion layer was clearly visible from
the air. The low cloud like like it had been run over by a steamroller -
there was literally nothing sticking up above that (very low) cap. Sydney
had some small, puffy Cu to greet me on arrival. Got to see a few close
up, and flew through one or two. The upper side of the cloud layer was a
_lot_ more irregular than the "ironed flat" cloud of Melbourne. :-)
>Regards. ( Ps). watch out for "THE CLOUD". !!!!!!
Him and a lot of his mates were hanging around a lot in Sydney. ;-)
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Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 21:46:43 +1000
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At 11:52 AM 2/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>Maybe if we all gathered together on the east coat, with an oar, and of the
>count of 3 ......shove! Huh :-)
Hmm, since it's an air mass, perhaps we should all point our fans eastwards
and blow the thing across to NZ ;)
73 de Tony, VK3JED
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>( Ps). watch out for "THE CLOUD". !!!!!!
>
> Him and a lot of his mates were hanging around a lot in Sydney. ;-)
Has anyone noticed that 'The Cloud' disappears for quite a large part of
the year (mainly storm season), and reappears regularly during autumn &
winter in Australia and Hong Kong. That NSW forecaster who originally
discovered the cloud & mentioned it to Michael Thompson has a bit to
answer to when it comes to 'The Cloud' chases that we all go on in the
"non-storm" season.
Maybe this year the MSC site could host photos of 'The Cloud' when
people see it - so if you do happen to spot 'The Cloud', feel free to
email me a pic with the location, date & time details & we might do a
bit of history this season...Tony, I don't spose you got any photos to
start this project off with did you?
Jane
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Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an
air temperature of 2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7.
It is remarkable that an oceanic island can have
such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic
hence low humidity.
Steven W
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Hey All.
I'll keep a look out for the cloud once I have moved...should find it somewhere roaming the "Alley"
Jimmy...keep ya eyes out too!!!!
PaulY
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>( Ps). watch out for "THE CLOUD". !!!!!!
>
> Him and a lot of his mates were hanging around a lot in Sydney. ;-)
Has anyone noticed that 'The Cloud' disappears for quite a large part of
the year (mainly storm season), and reappears regularly during autumn &
winter in Australia and Hong Kong. That NSW forecaster who originally
discovered the cloud & mentioned it to Michael Thompson has a bit to
answer to when it comes to 'The Cloud' chases that we all go on in the
"non-storm" season.
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people see it - so if you do happen to spot 'The Cloud', feel free to
email me a pic with the location, date & time details & we might do a
bit of history this season...Tony, I don't spose you got any photos to
start this project off with did you?
Jane
--------------------------------
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At 10:08 PM 3/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> >( Ps). watch out for "THE CLOUD". !!!!!!
>Maybe this year the MSC site could host photos of 'The Cloud' when
>people see it - so if you do happen to spot 'The Cloud', feel free to
>email me a pic with the location, date & time details & we might do a
>bit of history this season...Tony, I don't spose you got any photos to
>start this project off with did you?
No, I don't, but I will keep an eye out for The Cloud from now on and take
a few snaps. :-)
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Hi Paul,
The only cloud I'll look out for is a supercell whenever possible or one
that will try developing into one!!!!!
Jimmy Deguara
At 10:32 PM 3/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>Hey All.
>
>I'll keep a look out for the cloud once I have moved...should find it
>somewhere roaming the "Alley"
>
>Jimmy...keep ya eyes out too!!!!
>
>PaulY
>
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>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill
>Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 22:09
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: The Cloud (was aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain)
>
>
> >( Ps). watch out for "THE CLOUD". !!!!!!
> >
> > Him and a lot of his mates were hanging around a lot in Sydney. ;-)
>
>Has anyone noticed that 'The Cloud' disappears for quite a large part of
>the year (mainly storm season), and reappears regularly during autumn &
>winter in Australia and Hong Kong. That NSW forecaster who originally
>discovered the cloud & mentioned it to Michael Thompson has a bit to
>answer to when it comes to 'The Cloud' chases that we all go on in the
>"non-storm" season.
>
>Maybe this year the MSC site could host photos of 'The Cloud' when
>people see it - so if you do happen to spot 'The Cloud', feel free to
>email me a pic with the location, date & time details & we might do a
>bit of history this season...Tony, I don't spose you got any photos to
>start this project off with did you?
>
>Jane
>
>--------------------------------
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>cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
>Melbourne Storm Chasers
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>
>ASWA - Victoria
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: John Gaul
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At 21:28 1/05/02 +1200, you wrote:
>Hi,
>That high over SE Australia is rudely fowling our weather (NZ). Could you
>shift a bit further east please.
>I like autumn sunshine. South of the South island is getting it worst with
>thunder and hail today and
>snow down to 700m. Tomorrow, southwest gales and squally showers for
>Invercargill.
>Bye
>Steven W
Just come back home today (Thurs 2nd) to CHCH after a trip around the
Southern mainly central South Island (bugger, I missed on on a thunderstorm
in Invercargill today)
After leaving a very soaked Christchurch on Monday morning (52mm falling
here from 11pm on the Sun to 9am the next morning)and heading south, snow
was noticed to about 400m on the hills. Roads were flooded around South
Canterbury especially.
As we were in central areas, Alex,Queenstown,Wanaka, it was quite sheltered
although snow covered on many of the ranges and it was snowing over the
Crown Range as we passed through yesterday.
I see they have wind warnings for Southland and Otago tomorrow
JohnGaul
NZTS
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Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:19:45 +1000
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Hey i think thats a great idea with the fan but don't you think newzaland is
getting to much wind and rain. anyway we could give it a go hey. just to
piss off that bocking high i think it's driving us all mad
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
> At 11:52 AM 2/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>
> >Maybe if we all gathered together on the east coat, with an oar, and of
the
> >count of 3 ......shove! Huh :-)
>
> Hmm, since it's an air mass, perhaps we should all point our fans
eastwards
> and blow the thing across to NZ ;)
>
> 73 de Tony, VK3JED
> http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net
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Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:37:35 +1000
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My luck has gone down the drain got layed off work
fighting with my girlfriend what else can go wrong in the past two weeks a lot
of things happen to mer and now back on the dol.
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FreeWX 00:00:08
T:Error H:Error Bar:1021hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,086 Wavg:Calm,085
DP:Error WC:Error HIx:Error Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+19.8C Hin:63%
****************************************************
Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
****************************************************
Weather Conditions at 00:00:08 May 4
Temperature: Error
Humidity: Error
Wind Speed (gust): Calm
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 086°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 085°
Barometer: 1021 hPa and Steady
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: Error
Wind Chill: Error
Heat Index: Error
Indoor Temperature: +19.8 °C
Indoor Humidity: 63 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +14 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08
Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56
Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06
Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 16:51
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06
Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.6 °C at 21:56
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02
Minimum Temperature: +10.4 °C at 06:34
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:56
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21
Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 08:59
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +18.3 °C at 07:56
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32
Minimum Wind Chill: +10 °C at 06:34
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.6 °C at 21:56
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Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:26:30 +1000
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Michael,
Not wanting to sound rude, but can ya keep the personal things off the Aussie-wx email list. We had this same prob about 2 weeks
ago, with a couple of emails asking to keep personal relationship type stuff off here.
I'm sorry about your position and such, but please keep it weather related. If you need to talk to someone, try doing it through
personal email...not list email, or maybe even call them.
PaulY
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My luck has gone down the drain got layed off work fighting with my girlfriend what else can go wrong in the past two weeks a lot of
things happen to mer and now back on the dol.
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FreeWX 04:00:08
T:Error H:Error Bar:1019hPa,Falling Wgst:Calm,067 Wavg:Calm,067
DP:Error WC:Error HIx:Error Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+19.2C Hin:65%
****************************************************
Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
****************************************************
Weather Conditions at 04:00:08 May 4
Temperature: Error
Humidity: Error
Wind Speed (gust): Calm
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 067°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 067°
Barometer: 1019 hPa and Falling
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: Error
Wind Chill: Error
Heat Index: Error
Indoor Temperature: +19.2 °C
Indoor Humidity: 65 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +14 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08
Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56
Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06
Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 04:00
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06
Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.6 °C at 21:56
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02
Minimum Temperature: +10.4 °C at 06:34
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:56
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21
Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 08:59
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +18.3 °C at 07:56
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32
Minimum Wind Chill: +10 °C at 06:34
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.6 °C at 21:56
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FreeWX 08:00:08
T:Error H:Error Bar:1020hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,067 Wavg:Calm,067
DP:Error WC:Error HIx:Error Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+20.5C Hin:65%
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Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
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Weather Conditions at 08:00:08 May 4
Temperature: Error
Humidity: Error
Wind Speed (gust): Calm
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 067°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 067°
Barometer: 1020 hPa and Steady
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: Error
Wind Chill: Error
Heat Index: Error
Indoor Temperature: +20.5 °C
Indoor Humidity: 65 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +14 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08
Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56
Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06
Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 05:51
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06
Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.6 °C at 21:56
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02
Minimum Temperature: +10.4 °C at 06:34
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:56
Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21
Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 08:59
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +18.3 °C at 07:56
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32
Minimum Wind Chill: +10 °C at 06:34
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.6 °C at 21:56
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From: Jimmy Deguara
Subject: aus-wx: Siren tornado and giant hail
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Nice imagery and link to the Siren event last year
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/misc/010619/010619.html
Note the southern cell is noted by the NWS as having 4.5inch hail.
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From: "Keith Barnett"
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Not surprising..this is the surface
chart for the system late last night..notice the very deep fetch of
Antarctic air east from Long.170 E.
Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an
air temperature of 2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7.
It is remarkable that an oceanic island can have
such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic
hence low humidity.
Steven W
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Hi All,
Good rains last night driving to Surfers Paradise.G/C Seaway recorded 33 mm to 9am this morning though 46 mm fell in
the rain gauge in my suburb.
Overcast conditions still prevail so the chances are more
than likely for continuing showers or drizzle areas today.
Regards Shane
Gold Coast Queensland
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I think NZ came very close to some early snow.
Interestingly at the moment campbell island has a temp of 1.9C
with a strong easterly, Christchurch has a temp of
25.2 with westerly. I think the cold sector though will
stay SE of NZ although I notice pressures are
falling again over the South Island.
Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting
an air temperature of 2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7.
It is remarkable that an oceanic island can
have such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the
Antarctic
hence low humidity.
Steven W
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Keith,
You seem to be suggesting that the traffic jam is caused by the weather in
NSW....I would've thought it'd be due to the total lack of good quality
roads in NSW.....(and i'd like to say just kidding but i can't)....hehe.
Unfortunately the traffic jam in the weather is also affecting QLD, VIC and
SA too. Cool to cold overnight but then fine and far far too sunny
(although I shouldn't complain - these days are as near to perfect as you
can get).
Enjoy it (i think) while it lasts. The cold of winter is not far off.
Macca
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From: Keith Barnett
To:
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> Yes. There is a further intense depression south of the Falkland Islands
and
> there appears to be some scope for the low south of the other blocking
high
> to get a wriggle on and probably catch up with or be absorbed by that
> depression. This might all free up the traffic jam over NSW. I can recall
> occasions when prolonged spells of light winds in Sydney were followed by
> outbreaks of windy weather and a sizeable drop in the daily pressure
> readings, as if a statistical correction is taking place. So we shouldn't
be
> surprised if winter arrives in the next 10 days, just like the last 2
years
> in May only a week or two earlier.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Clarke"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:37 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
>
>
> > Keith
> >
> > That's a great synoptic shot.
> >
> > It appears that the other blocking high to the east of NZ is in break
down
> > phase - gradually being worn down by those lows to the west.
> >
> > Look at those tight isobars over southern NZ (whow !). Windy down there
or
> > what ?????
> >
> > Our blocking high over SE Aust. appears as a consequence of the whole
set
> > up.
> >
> > I expect a NE drift into the northern Tasman /southern Coral Sea with
some
> > fluctation in intensity over the next few days as lows try to push
around
> > the system to the south.
> >
> > Enjoying the heavy showery autumnal weather in SE QLD.
> >
> > Regards
> > Simon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Keith Barnett"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> >
> >
> > > This might be why.
> > >
> > > http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> > >
> > >
> > > > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving
me
> > > nuts
> > > > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it
> > > Historically
> > > > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south
east
> > > winds
> > > > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing
the
> > > > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Phil Bagust"
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hey all
> > > > >
> > > > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are
> > > experiencing
> > > > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm
> not
> > > > going
> > > > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet!
> > > > >
> > > > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest
> time
> > > one
> > > > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we
are
> > > going
> > > > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months???
> > (surely
> > > > > not?).
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone?
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au:
> > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au
> > > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at
> > www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - -
> > > > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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FreeWX 12:00:08
T:+22.3C H:52% Bar:1019hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,256 Wavg:Calm,256
DP:+12C WC:+22C HIx:+24.5C Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+26.9C Hin:49%
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Weather Conditions at 12:00:08 May 4
Temperature: +22.3 °C
Humidity: 52 %
Wind Speed (gust): Calm
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 256°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 256°
Barometer: 1019 hPa and Steady
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: +12 °C
Wind Chill: +22 °C
Heat Index: +24.5 °C
Indoor Temperature: +26.9 °C
Indoor Humidity: 49 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +16.4 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: +5.9 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 1287 meters. (4223 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26.8 °C at 11:48
Minimum Temperature: +18.9 °C at 09:21
Maximum Humidity: 87 % at 09:22
Minimum Humidity: 40 % at 11:48
Maximum Wind (gust): 4.7 KT, 150° at 10:18
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1021 hPa at 09:51
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 12:00
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 3 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +17.8 °C at 09:25
Minimum Dew Point: +10.6 °C at 11:52
Minimum Wind Chill: +14 °C at 09:20
Maximum Heat Index: +26.8 °C at 11:48
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 11:59
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08
Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56
Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06
Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 05:51
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06
Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 11:59
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Yes Andrew I know what you mean! The meteorological version however looks
like hanging around for a week according to 2 of the 3 7-day models. The 3rd
one (GASP) has a deep tropical dip over eastern Australia, a deepening
depression in the Coral Sea, and a Sydney forecast of rain next Friday, from
which I assume this is the model the BoM prefers at this early stage.
There's a complication in that the low west of Chile is cut off by a strong
high at about Lat 60 as per the following:
http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts/d/charts/deterministic/world/msl_uv8
50_z500!Wind%20850%20and%20mslp!120!South%20America!12!pop!od!oper!public_pl
ots!latest!/
so there's a sort of split in the westerlies which appears to extend into
the south Atlantic. So I guess until they all move down the centre of the
bus we might have this present pattern continuing. I'll leave it to the
upper air experts to comment on the role of the jet streams which will
probably determine the final outcome and make a liar of me in the process...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew"
To:
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> Keith,
>
> You seem to be suggesting that the traffic jam is caused by the weather in
> NSW....I would've thought it'd be due to the total lack of good quality
> roads in NSW.....(and i'd like to say just kidding but i can't)....hehe.
> Unfortunately the traffic jam in the weather is also affecting QLD, VIC
and
> SA too. Cool to cold overnight but then fine and far far too sunny
> (although I shouldn't complain - these days are as near to perfect as you
> can get).
>
> Enjoy it (i think) while it lasts. The cold of winter is not far off.
>
> Macca
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Keith Barnett
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
>
>
> > Yes. There is a further intense depression south of the Falkland Islands
> and
> > there appears to be some scope for the low south of the other blocking
> high
> > to get a wriggle on and probably catch up with or be absorbed by that
> > depression. This might all free up the traffic jam over NSW. I can
recall
> > occasions when prolonged spells of light winds in Sydney were followed
by
> > outbreaks of windy weather and a sizeable drop in the daily pressure
> > readings, as if a statistical correction is taking place. So we
shouldn't
> be
> > surprised if winter arrives in the next 10 days, just like the last 2
> years
> > in May only a week or two earlier.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Simon Clarke"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> >
> >
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > That's a great synoptic shot.
> > >
> > > It appears that the other blocking high to the east of NZ is in break
> down
> > > phase - gradually being worn down by those lows to the west.
> > >
> > > Look at those tight isobars over southern NZ (whow !). Windy down
there
> or
> > > what ?????
> > >
> > > Our blocking high over SE Aust. appears as a consequence of the whole
> set
> > > up.
> > >
> > > I expect a NE drift into the northern Tasman /southern Coral Sea with
> some
> > > fluctation in intensity over the next few days as lows try to push
> around
> > > the system to the south.
> > >
> > > Enjoying the heavy showery autumnal weather in SE QLD.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Simon
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Keith Barnett"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> > >
> > >
> > > > This might be why.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From:
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is
driving
> me
> > > > nuts
> > > > > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it
> > > > Historically
> > > > > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south
> east
> > > > winds
> > > > > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing
> the
> > > > > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Phil Bagust"
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are
> > > > experiencing
> > > > > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so
I'm
> > not
> > > > > going
> > > > > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest
> > time
> > > > one
> > > > > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we
> are
> > > > going
> > > > > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months???
> > > (surely
> > > > > > not?).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Phil
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au:
> > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au
> > > > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at
> > > www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - -
> > > > > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
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Good drenching for west Brisbane also.. my place took 28mm to 9am this
morning.
rals
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From: "Shane Williams"
Date: Saturday, May 4, 2002 9:47 am
Subject: aus-wx: SEQ Rain
> Hi All,
> Good rains last night driving to Surfers Paradise. G/C
> Seawayrecorded 33 mm to 9am this morning though 46 mm fell in the
> rain gauge
> in my suburb.
>
> Overcast conditions still prevail so the chances are more than likely
> for continuing showers or drizzle areas today.
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> Regards Shane
>
> Gold Coast Queensland
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From: "Jane ONeill"
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Afternoon all,
Melbourne's record high for May is 28.7C. Melbourne temperature at 1330
was 25.3C and a couple of localities in the western suburbs are
approaching 26C.
Jane
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At 12:49 4/05/02 +1200, you wrote:
> I think NZ came very close to some early snow. Interestingly at the
>moment campbell island has a temp of 1.9C with a strong easterly,
>Christchurch has a temp of 25.2 with westerly. I think the cold sector
26.5C in my screen at 1246pm. NW wind
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At 23:37 3/05/02 +1000, you wrote:
> My luck has gone down the drain got layed off work fighting with my
>girlfriend what else can go wrong in the past two weeks a lot of things
>happen to mer and now back on the dol.
I see
...and now you are suffering from 'Anticyclonic gloom' ???
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At 23:19 3/05/02 +1000, you wrote:
>Hey i think thats a great idea with the fan but don't you think newzaland is
>getting to much wind and rain. anyway we could give it a go hey. just to
>piss off that bocking high i think it's driving us all mad
No. we are getting bugger all here in Christchurch except for NW winds and
warm temperatures.
IT's only down south where the strong W to Sw gales are happening.
It's stuffing up the Oyster catch. Boats can't get out from Bluff.
Muttonbirds are dying because according to the media, not used to the windy
conditions.
JohnGaul
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
>To:
>Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:46 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
>
>
>> At 11:52 AM 2/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>>
>> >Maybe if we all gathered together on the east coat, with an oar, and of
>the
>> >count of 3 ......shove! Huh :-)
>>
>> Hmm, since it's an air mass, perhaps we should all point our fans
>eastwards
>> and blow the thing across to NZ ;)
>>
>> 73 de Tony, VK3JED
>> http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net
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33mm at Repton (Bellinger) after 28mm yesterday and a total of about 80mm
from last Saturday. At last the sun is shining again and it's warming up.
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Hi,
Looking at some of the totals, our rain totalled 23mm here in Schofields
for April.
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FreeWX 16:00:08
T:+18.4C H:80% Bar:1017hPa,Falling Wgst:Calm,078 Wavg:Calm,075
DP:+14.9C WC:+18C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+25.8C Hin:57%
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Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
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Weather Conditions at 16:00:08 May 4
Temperature: +18.4 °C
Humidity: 80 %
Wind Speed (gust): Calm
Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
Wind Direction: 078°
Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 075°
Barometer: 1017 hPa and Falling
Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
Dew Point: +14.9 °C
Wind Chill: +18 °C
Heat Index: n.a.
Indoor Temperature: +25.8 °C
Indoor Humidity: 57 %
Wet Bulb Temperature: +16.2 °C
Wet Bulb Depression: +2.2 °C
Base Height of Cu Cloud: 437 meters. (1434 feet)
Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26.8 °C at 11:48
Minimum Temperature: +16.3 °C at 13:40
Maximum Humidity: 92 % at 13:45
Minimum Humidity: 40 % at 11:48
Maximum Wind (gust): 9.8 KT, 14° at 13:24
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1021 hPa at 09:51
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:00
Maximum Rainfall Rate: 32 mm/hour at 13:38
Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 7 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +17.8 °C at 09:25
Minimum Dew Point: +10.6 °C at 11:52
Minimum Wind Chill: +14 °C at 13:37
Maximum Heat Index: +26.8 °C at 11:48
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21
Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08
Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42
Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56
Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06
Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34
Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06
Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 05:51
Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm
Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09
Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06
Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42
Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08
Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46
Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21
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Can we not receive so many of these a day please :)
At 04:04 PM 4/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>FreeWX 16:00:08
>T:+18.4C H:80% Bar:1017hPa,Falling Wgst:Calm,078 Wavg:Calm,075
>DP:+14.9C WC:+18C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+25.8C Hin:57%
>
>****************************************************
>
>Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
>****************************************************
>Weather Conditions at 16:00:08 May 4
>
>Temperature: +18.4 °C
>Humidity: 80 %
>Wind Speed (gust): Calm
>Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
>Wind Direction: 078°
>Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 075°
>Barometer: 1017 hPa and Falling
>Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
>Dew Point: +14.9 °C
>Wind Chill: +18 °C
>Heat Index: n.a.
>Indoor Temperature: +25.8 °C
>Indoor Humidity: 57 %
>Wet Bulb Temperature: +16.2 °C
>Wet Bulb Depression: +2.2 °C
>Base Height of Cu Cloud: 437 meters. (1434 feet)
>
>
>Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
>
>Maximum Temperature: +26.8 °C at 11:48
>Minimum Temperature: +16.3 °C at 13:40
>Maximum Humidity: 92 % at 13:45
>Minimum Humidity: 40 % at 11:48
>Maximum Wind (gust): 9.8 KT, 14° at 13:24
>Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1021 hPa at 09:51
>Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:00
>Maximum Rainfall Rate: 32 mm/hour at 13:38
>Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 7 mm
>Maximum Dew Point: +17.8 °C at 09:25
>Minimum Dew Point: +10.6 °C at 11:52
>Minimum Wind Chill: +14 °C at 13:37
>Maximum Heat Index: +26.8 °C at 11:48
>Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46
>Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21
>
>
>Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
>
>Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08
>Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42
>Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56
>Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06
>Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34
>Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06
>Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 05:51
>Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
>Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm
>Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09
>Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06
>Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42
>Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08
>Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46
>Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21
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At 13:38 4/05/02 +1000, you wrote:
>Afternoon all,
>
>Melbourne's record high for May is 28.7C. Melbourne temperature at 1330
>was 25.3C and a couple of localities in the western suburbs are
>approaching 26C.
>
>Jane
Warm in Christchurch today
up to 26.5C at 12:46pm local time
Where is this warm air coming from?
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At 00:17 4/05/02 +1200, you wrote:
> Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an air temperature of
>2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7. It is remarkable that an oceanic island
>can have such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic
>hence low humidity. Steven W
It's really stirring things up, Steven
Not often we get a 'blocking high' over the SE of Australia and with that
dry cold air, this is resulting with very deep lows - 946hPa in that low to
the SE of NZ according to the 1800 3 May 2002 analysis weather map from
MetService.
No wonder it is windy down south of the South Island.
...but with a dry SW airstream, why is it windy and warm today here with
the NW.
If the anticyclone was to the east of NZ, you would expect these conditions?
I'm not a metoeorologist but why is is warm with a blocking high to the
west of the country (NZ) ?
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Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 16:46:35 +1000
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Not much better for Seven Hills..26.2mm or just on the 25th percentile.
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: aus-wx: Schofields Rain
> Hi,
>
> Looking at some of the totals, our rain totalled 23mm here in Schofields
> for April.
>
> -----------------------------------------
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> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>
> from
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> NSW Australia
>
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From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
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At 04:23 PM 4/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>Can we not receive so many of these a day please :)
I was going to say something, but I'll offer a suggestion: For those
offering weather obs, why not put up a website and try and get some links
from one or more of the major AU weather sites? The web is the perfect
medium for real time weather obs. :)
73 de Tony, VK3JED
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From: "Peter Tristram"
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Subject: aus-wx: repton rain again
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For Repton: 112mm in April, 62mm so far this month plus today's drenching -
698mm for the year so far- some coastal areas are considerably drier. This
is half of last year's equivalent total, but only 350mm fell for the rest of
the year. I hope this year is wetter.
Peter
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From: "Keith Barnett"
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I thought the one in question was automatically generated..does the owner
know what it's doing?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
To:
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4
> At 04:23 PM 4/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>
> >Can we not receive so many of these a day please :)
>
> I was going to say something, but I'll offer a suggestion: For those
> offering weather obs, why not put up a website and try and get some links
> from one or more of the major AU weather sites? The web is the perfect
> medium for real time weather obs. :)
>
> 73 de Tony, VK3JED
> http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net
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Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 15:26:03 +0800
From: "Phil Smith"
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Subject: Re: The Cloud (was aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain)
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Unfortunately "The Cloud" has not turned up in Hong Kong this week.
Neither have any of his mates.
At this time of year we normally have 8/8 cloud most days which helps us
to cope with the high humidity.
But this week there has been sun, sun, more sun, and according to the HKO
another five days with more sun to come. The next five days are
predicted at 26-30C and 70-90%.
Fair go! My nose is sunburnt enough all ready!
So if any of you guys do happen to spot "The Cloud" please be kind enough
to tell him and his mates that they are needed over here.
Phil
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Jane ONeill"
To:
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:08:32 +1000
Subject: The Cloud (was aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain)
> >( Ps). watch out for "THE CLOUD". !!!!!!
> >
> > Him and a lot of his mates were hanging around a lot in Sydney. ;-)
>
> Has anyone noticed that 'The Cloud' disappears for quite a large part
> of
> the year (mainly storm season), and reappears regularly during autumn &
> winter in Australia and Hong Kong. That NSW forecaster who originally
> discovered the cloud & mentioned it to Michael Thompson has a bit to
> answer to when it comes to 'The Cloud' chases that we all go on in the
> "non-storm" season.
>
> Maybe this year the MSC site could host photos of 'The Cloud' when
> people see it - so if you do happen to spot 'The Cloud', feel free to
> email me a pic with the location, date & time details & we might do a
> bit of history this season...Tony, I don't spose you got any photos to
> start this project off with did you?
>
> Jane
>
> --------------------------------
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From: "Ashton H Anderson"
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Yes I must say I agree...it
is great to know what is happening around our great country but it is far better
to seek as you need...if that is a tad harsh I apologise
!!
I thought the one in question was automatically generated..does
the owner know what it's doing? ----- Original Message ----- From:
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> At 04:23 PM 4/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >
>Can we not receive so many of these a day please :) > > I was
going to say something, but I'll offer a suggestion: For those >
offering weather obs, why not put up a website and try and get some
links > from one or more of the major AU weather sites? The web is
the perfect > medium for real time weather obs. :) > > 73 de
Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net >
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Yes the owner knows what it is doing and is about to remove the emailing
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Barnett"
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> I thought the one in question was automatically generated..does the owner
> know what it's doing?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4
>
>
> > At 04:23 PM 4/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> >
> > >Can we not receive so many of these a day please :)
> >
> > I was going to say something, but I'll offer a suggestion: For those
> > offering weather obs, why not put up a website and try and get some
links
> > from one or more of the major AU weather sites? The web is the perfect
> > medium for real time weather obs. :)
> >
> > 73 de Tony, VK3JED
> > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net
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From: "Simon Clarke"
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Michael
Hope things get better for you soon.
Life is full of surprises (stop fighting though -
that will help).
My luck has gone down the drain got layed off
work fighting with my girlfriend what else can go wrong in the past two weeks
a lot of things happen to mer and now back on the
dol.
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Hi all,
I have noted with interest the recent discussion
about Weather Stations. I have a Weather MAX from Maximum Inc in the U S A . I
have had and continue to experience problems with it apparently
related to the power supply. It seems to cause problems with the logic
circuit and display functions. The Display Unit has been back several
times and a number of other componets have had to be replaced in the 2 years or
so I have had it. My question is ; have any other list member one of these
units and what has been your experience with them?
In my last email I have virtually told them that I
will return the whole set up if the gremlins can not be rectified.
They have an agent in Hobart but I doubt they have
the facilities to do any repairs as my experience has not been too good so
far.
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Hi all
Again I agree, Unless this is particularly interesting to the list then it
should not be posted.
I had previously asked where the hell Kramach is and received no reply - so
the info is meaningless.
(Also Paul - I agree personal life and relationship type topics should kept
off the list - but please don't be too hard on someone going through a hard
time - maybe the list is a help to them at the moment).
Regards
Simon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Bath"
To:
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4
> Can we not receive so many of these a day please :)
>
>
> At 04:04 PM 4/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>
> >FreeWX 16:00:08
> >T:+18.4C H:80% Bar:1017hPa,Falling Wgst:Calm,078 Wavg:Calm,075
> >DP:+14.9C WC:+18C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+25.8C Hin:57%
> >
> >****************************************************
> >
> >Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia
> >****************************************************
> >Weather Conditions at 16:00:08 May 4
> >
> >Temperature: +18.4 °C
> >Humidity: 80 %
> >Wind Speed (gust): Calm
> >Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm
> >Wind Direction: 078°
> >Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 075°
> >Barometer: 1017 hPa and Falling
> >Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour
> >Dew Point: +14.9 °C
> >Wind Chill: +18 °C
> >Heat Index: n.a.
> >Indoor Temperature: +25.8 °C
> >Indoor Humidity: 57 %
> >Wet Bulb Temperature: +16.2 °C
> >Wet Bulb Depression: +2.2 °C
> >Base Height of Cu Cloud: 437 meters. (1434 feet)
> >
> >
> >Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am
> >
> >Maximum Temperature: +26.8 °C at 11:48
> >Minimum Temperature: +16.3 °C at 13:40
> >Maximum Humidity: 92 % at 13:45
> >Minimum Humidity: 40 % at 11:48
> >Maximum Wind (gust): 9.8 KT, 14° at 13:24
> >Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1021 hPa at 09:51
> >Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:00
> >Maximum Rainfall Rate: 32 mm/hour at 13:38
> >Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 7 mm
> >Maximum Dew Point: +17.8 °C at 09:25
> >Minimum Dew Point: +10.6 °C at 11:52
> >Minimum Wind Chill: +14 °C at 13:37
> >Maximum Heat Index: +26.8 °C at 11:48
> >Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46
> >Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21
> >
> >
> >Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am
> >
> >Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08
> >Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42
> >Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56
> >Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06
> >Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34
> >Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06
> >Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 05:51
> >Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil
> >Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm
> >Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09
> >Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06
> >Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42
> >Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08
> >Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46
> >Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21
> >
> >
> >
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Hi all
42 mm in Bayside, Cleveland. But none since 9am despite the forecast.
Brings the total to 97mm here since last Saturday.
Regards
Simon
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>
> Good drenching for west Brisbane also.. my place took 28mm to 9am this
> morning.
>
> rals
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shane Williams"
> Date: Saturday, May 4, 2002 9:47 am
> Subject: aus-wx: SEQ Rain
>
> > Hi All,
> > Good rains last night driving to Surfers Paradise. G/C
> > Seawayrecorded 33 mm to 9am this morning though 46 mm fell in the
> > rain gauge
> > in my suburb.
> >
> > Overcast conditions still prevail so the chances are more than likely
> > for continuing showers or drizzle areas today.
> >
> > Regards Shane
> >
> > Gold Coast Queensland
> >
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From: "Bussy"
To:
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Stations
Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 20:25:50 +1000
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No offence meant at all here but you get what you
pay for. :-)
I spent up big, while I had the money and went for
a Davis Monitor II which came with the rain gauge and datalogger for the
computer download. Have not had any problems with it at all. I originally had a
WM-918 which copped a direct lightning strike (no fault of the unit of course)
and then got another which suffered from the same as the original. 201.6 kmh
wind gusts on a nice steady day which also registered rain which never happened.
But must admit I liked the weather "forecast" icon it produced.
I have noted with interest the recent discussion
about Weather Stations. I have a Weather MAX from Maximum Inc in the U S A . I
have had and continue to experience problems with it
apparently related to the power supply. It seems to cause problems with the
logic circuit and display functions. The Display Unit has been back
several times and a number of other componets have had to be replaced in the 2
years or so I have had it. My question is ; have any other list member
one of these units and what has been your experience with them?
In my last email I have virtually told them that
I will return the whole set up if the gremlins can not be
rectified.
They have an agent in Hobart but I doubt they
have the facilities to do any repairs as my experience has not been too good
so far.
From: "Ken Ring"
To:
Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air
Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 23:59:46 +1200
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Perhaps it is cool and windy over most of NZ because the lunar southern
declination is at this time centred over a longitude line situated between
Australia and NZ; a relatively rare event. The moon has, in the last few
days, been rising above a point just below New Caledonia and daily tracking
east, in direct longitudinal line with NZ. Every southern hemisphere autumn
the lunar southern declination occurs around Last quarter phase. The day of
the Last quarter was yesterday May 4th. Coming within a few days of perigee,
large earthquakes in this Pacific area have been more prevalent than usual,
occurring in the Solomons(4.3mag on 2nd), Tonga(4.7mag on 3rd) and Fiji
(5.8mag on 4th) as well as one per day in NZ since April 29. This number is
unusually large. The windy southerlies started THE VERY DAY the moon began
its northerly ascent a couple of days ago. If this is considered to be in
the realm of coincidence then so also must each grand snowdump in Otago and
S Canterbury last winter that also occurred immediately after the lunar
southern declinations of the winter months of 2001.
Ken Ring
www.predictweather.com
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From: "John Gaul"
To:
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air
> At 00:17 4/05/02 +1200, you wrote:
> > Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an air temperature of
> >2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7. It is remarkable that an oceanic island
> >can have such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic
> >hence low humidity. Steven W
> ...but with a dry SW airstream, why is it windy and warm today here with
> the NW.
> If the anticyclone was to the east of NZ, you would expect these
conditions?
> I'm not a metoeorologist but why is is warm with a blocking high to the
> west of the country (NZ) ?
> JohnGaul
> NZTS
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From: "Steven Williams"
To:
Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air
Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 22:46:07 +1200
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Hi John,
Tairoa head near Dunedin is reporting an average of 58kts at 2100NZST this
evening. But on Thursday evening
at the same time the average was 75kts. No wonder the Albatross like it so
much there. Good for take off.
Anyway today I notice the upper air was very warm over NZ, hence the high
temps up the East coast.
Timaru recorded 27C. In Auckland we had 7/8 Stratocu all day, no heating, so
max was only 18C.
Very cold air just to the south of the country will stay down there though
don't expect a warm day Sunday.
Cheers
Steven W
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From: "John Gaul"
To:
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air
> At 00:17 4/05/02 +1200, you wrote:
> > Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an air temperature of
> >2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7. It is remarkable that an oceanic island
> >can have such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic
> >hence low humidity. Steven W
>
> It's really stirring things up, Steven
> Not often we get a 'blocking high' over the SE of Australia and with that
> dry cold air, this is resulting with very deep lows - 946hPa in that low
to
> the SE of NZ according to the 1800 3 May 2002 analysis weather map from
> MetService.
> No wonder it is windy down south of the South Island.
> ...but with a dry SW airstream, why is it windy and warm today here with
> the NW.
> If the anticyclone was to the east of NZ, you would expect these
conditions?
> I'm not a metoeorologist but why is is warm with a blocking high to the
> west of the country (NZ) ?
>
>
> JohnGaul
> NZTS
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