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001 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Re Aussie weather location.
002 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           Location
003 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Location
004 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           Melbourne weather
005 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]            Location
006 "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]    Location
007 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]       Location
008 "viking" [viking at wantree.com.au]               Location
009 DroughtMaster [gomaz at bigfoot.com]              Location
010 Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au  Re: Yamba storms
011 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        (Update) Victorian high minimum temperature equalled
012 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Location
013 Ben Quinn [Bodie at corplink.com.au]              Location
014 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Chase tomorrow
015 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]                        Location
016 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Location + model data
017 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  MRF 500mb geopotential v/s 500-1000mb thickness
018 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Location + model data
019 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Location + model data
020 Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com]             Location
021 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          Marla rain
022 Ben Quinn [Bodie at corplink.com.au]              Location + model data
023 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          Seabreezes
024 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          Location
025 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          No chasing for me!!
026 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Seabreezes
027 Local_Court_Maclean at agd.nsw.gov.au             New Aussie weather IRC Chat Room!
028 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at nsw.bigpond.net.au]       MRF 500mb geopotential v/s 500-1000mb thickness
029 Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au]              Location
030 Excel [excel at corplink.com.au]                  Location
031 Local_Court_Maclean at agd.nsw.gov.au             IRC Room
032 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Location + model data
033 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           Video mounts
034 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   I fear no storm for Sydney - Wollongong
035 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Video mounts
036 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          I fear no storm for Sydney - Wollongong
037 "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au]      Location
038 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]         Location
039 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Lithgow Storm
040 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          Lithgow Storm
041 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Lithgow Storm
042 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Jimmy may get a storm
043 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Location
044 "John  Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]             Location
045 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Location
046 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Location
047 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Location
048 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Location
049 disarm at braenet.com.au                          Meeting
050 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        ASWA Meeting Apology
051 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange Weather

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001

From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: "Aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Re Aussie weather location.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 06:58:19 +1100
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Terry Bishop from Orange  NSW

Still no storm in the local area. At the moment at 7.00 ESDT
 25C, 1018 hPa, 30% No breeze. Some cirrus cloud only.

 Terry.

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Location
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 07:35:54 +1100
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Jane ONeill
Bayswater, Melbourne

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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:54:46 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Ben...
Where abouts in Brisbane are you ?
Don White from Frenchs Forest in Sydney

Ben Quinn wrote:
> 
> Hey Ben from Brisbane here
> 
> Would i be able to ask everyone to email the list with their location and state?
> just to get an idea of who is where on the list, and how many in each state.  Also
> if there is anyone in Queensland who hasn't spoken up yet, could you do so? :)
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> Ben

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004

From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 08:18:11 +1100
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Melbourne conditions  8am Friday
Overcast with St & Sc Temperature 17.4C Dewpoint 15.6C      
Pressure 1014.6  

Bayswater had 14mm yesterday, Kilsyth had 11mm, airport had 7mm.

Good luck to the rest of you - we recharge our batteries 

Jane
Melbourne

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005

From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Location
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:49:58 +1100
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Allawah, SydneyNSW
******************************************
Grant Boyden

http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden/storm
http://www.2ky.com.au

IRC =  au.austnet.org and #2kyRacing port 6667

ICQ = 23511159
******************************************

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> From: Ben Quinn 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Location
> Date: Thursday, 7 January 1999 20:42
> 
> Hey Ben from Brisbane here
> 
> Would i be able to ask everyone to email the list with their location and
state?
> just to get an idea of who is where on the list, and how many in each
state.  Also
> if there is anyone in Queensland who hasn't spoken up yet, could you do
so? :)
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> Ben

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Hi there - Nandina, from Mulgrave...Victoria.Cheers,

Nandina
nandina at alphalink.com.au

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> Hey Ben from Brisbane here
>
> Would i be able to ask everyone to email the list with their location and
> state?
> just to get an idea of who is where on the list, and how many in each state.
> Also
> if there is anyone in Queensland who hasn't spoken up yet, could you do so? :)
>
> thanks in advance

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007

From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Location
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 10:20:26 +1100
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Hi Ben,

Im from Blaxland NSW which is located in the lower Blue Mountains.

Matthew Piper

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>From: Ben Quinn 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Thursday, 7 January 1999 21:44
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Location
>
>
>Hey Ben from Brisbane here
>
>Would i be able to ask everyone to email the list with their location and
state?
>just to get an idea of who is where on the list, and how many in each
state.  Also
>if there is anyone in Queensland who hasn't spoken up yet, could you do so?
:)
>
>thanks in advance
>
>Ben

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008

From: "viking" [viking at wantree.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Location
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 07:20:53 +0800
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Anne Tobiasen
Armadale, Perth.

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> From: Ben Quinn 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Location
> Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 5:42 PM
> 
> Hey Ben from Brisbane here
> 
> Would i be able to ask everyone to email the list with their location and
state?
> just to get an idea of who is where on the list, and how many in each
state.  Also
> if there is anyone in Queensland who hasn't spoken up yet, could you do
so? :)
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> Ben

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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 07:38:29 +0800
From: DroughtMaster [gomaz at bigfoot.com]
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DroughtMaster
im in Halls Head Mandurah  West Aust
just south of Perth

Web Site: Home Weather Station
http://members.tripod.com/~gomaz/

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010

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 11:11:31 +1100 (EST)
From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au]
To: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Re: Yamba storms

 
Susan from Balmain

It was on the page of the guy who is in Maclean atm - is it Steve?  anyway
email is local-court or something

sorry to be so vague - its my favourite state

Susan


On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Michael Bath wrote:

> Susan,
> 
> Can you please send me the picture? Who took it?
> I am putting togther a report on the event and will have it online very soon.
> 
> regards, Michael

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011

From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aussie-weather: (Update) Victorian high minimum temperature equalled
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather), d.jones at bom.gov.au
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The Mildura minimum temperature from yesterday has been confirmed 
as 30.7 degrees. This equals the Victorian state record for any month,
also set at Mildura on 2 January 1955.

Blair Trewin

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012

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 11:12:08 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Ben Quinn wrote:
> 
> Hey Ben from Brisbane here
> 
> Would i be able to ask everyone to email the list with their location and state?
> ...

Not that it helps much, but I Email from the Sydney CBD, live at
Lindfield in Sydney's north shore, frequent Melbourne, Brisbane and
Canberra for work, and go to all sorts of places for visitation. So
I'll report each instance with a precise location and time, if known.

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 10:15:05 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [Bodie at corplink.com.au]
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Don White wrote:

> Ben...
> Where abouts in Brisbane are you ?
> Don White from Frenchs Forest in Sydney

Hey Don

I'm actually about 25km North of the Brisbane CBD (just out of the city limits), in the
City of Redcliffe.

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Subject: aussie-weather: Chase tomorrow
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I suppose today it will occur around Sydney but tomorrow I think that
chasers will have to move up into the Hunter for some real action. Will
reassess the situation tomorrow morning.


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Jimmy Deguara
Vice President ASWA
from Schofields, Sydney
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/

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From: "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Location
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 11:58:08 +1100
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Dane Newman, Kilsyth-Melbourne.

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Hi everyone, 

Patrick from Higgins, Canberra ACT here.

Can anyone tell me when the data for the AVN and MRF models are updated. 
The data I have in mind is that found on the following site:

http://wesley.wwb.noaa.gov/ncep_data/index_sgi51.html

The data I find always seems to be issued the day before (ie at 1.00pm 
AEDT on 8 January the latest available forecast was issued at 00z on 7 
January). For example, I take it that a more up to date AVN forecast 
would not now be indicating a Lifted Index of less than MINUS 6 over the 
ACT tomorrow afternoon...

Perhaps I am being a little naive and there is a way to get data faster 
that it is issued on the Web and that is by subscribing somewhere and 
paying mega$$$?

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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 13:05:23 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Someone with more knowledge that me might be able to better explain
why at http://grads.iges.org/pix/aus.fcst.html the plots of the 500mb
geopotential and 500-1000mb thickness are different.

>From the information provided, "500mb geopotential" is the height, in
10's of metres, of the 500mb pressure level. The "500mb-1000mb"
thickness is also the height, in 10's of metres between the 500mb
geopotential and the 1000mb geopotential. Now, my deductionis that the
plots differ since the 500mb geopotential is the height from the 500mb
pressure level to sea-level including any variations of Mean Sea Level
Pressure (MSLP) whereas the 500mb-1000mb thickness just tracks the
height between the 500mb and 1000mb levels which would tend to
undulate up and down according to MSLP. For example, with a "thickness
of around 540 (5400) predominating, the 1000mb level might be 100m
below sea level in a decent "east-coast low" of 990mb but some 400m
above sea level in the middle of a 1040mb "high". This would result in
a differing 500mb geopotential to thickness plot.

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Location + model data
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> 
> 
> Hi everyone, 
> 
> Patrick from Higgins, Canberra ACT here.
> 
> Can anyone tell me when the data for the AVN and MRF models are updated. 
> The data I have in mind is that found on the following site:
> 
> http://wesley.wwb.noaa.gov/ncep_data/index_sgi51.html
> 
> The data I find always seems to be issued the day before (ie at 1.00pm 
> AEDT on 8 January the latest available forecast was issued at 00z on 7 
> January). For example, I take it that a more up to date AVN forecast 
> would not now be indicating a Lifted Index of less than MINUS 6 over the 
> ACT tomorrow afternoon...
While I'm not familiar with this particular source, if it's only 
updated once daily, 00z on 8 January isn't until 1100 AEDT, and
the model takes time to run, so I wouldn't expect to see it until
later. (The ECMWF run at 1200Z (2300 AEDT) doesn't usually turn up
at the Bureau until about 1200 AEDT the following day).

Blair Trewin

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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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The AVN model data is available about 6 hours after the model is produced.
It is updated at 00z and 12z. The actual raw data is available earlier but
the output or useful part of the model is only available later.

Jimmy Deguara

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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 13:02:27 +1000
From: Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com]
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Hi,

Ross Portas, from Brisbane, Eight Mile Plains.

Anyone who hasn't gone to the irc meet on Wed nights should definately do so. Everyone
there was really great and made a first time visitor most welcome.

Thanks guys,
Rosco.

Ben Quinn wrote:

> Hey Ben from Brisbane here
>
> Would i be able to ask everyone to email the list with their location and state?
> just to get an idea of who is where on the list, and how many in each state.  Also
> if there is anyone in Queensland who hasn't spoken up yet, could you do so? :)
>
> thanks in advance
>
> Ben

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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Marla rain
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 03:18:29 GMT
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On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 07:18:01 GMT, wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier
Williams) wrote:

>As Blair says, we'll have to wait for the observer's fieldbooks to
>know the final score, but my money is on 51mm *not* being the correct
>figure.
>
The correct figure, from the observer himself, was 50.6mm. I lose!


Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 13:20:12 +1100
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Blair Trewin wrote:

> While I'm not familiar with this particular source, if it's only
> updated once daily, 00z on 8 January isn't until 1100 AEDT, and
> the model takes time to run, so I wouldn't expect to see it until
> later. (The ECMWF run at 1200Z (2300 AEDT) doesn't usually turn up
> at the Bureau until about 1200 AEDT the following day).
>

Also , the AVN Lifted Index (and the other variables) are usualy updated
around 2:30pm most days (the 0z forecast, and the others updated through the
afternoon and night).

The NOGAPS and the AVN models are usualy updated by 4:30pm (0z forecast) or so
of an afternoon, and I THINK about 4:30am (12z forecast) as well (it's
normally fully updated when i wake up so i'm just guesing).

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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Seabreezes
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 03:30:43 GMT
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On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:37:04 +1100, "Jane ONeill"
 wrote:

>Melbourne is quite similar to Perth in some ways - earlier this week there
>were temperature differences of up to 10C withing 10km of the coastline
>because of the weakness of the sea-breeze.  

The airmass boundary along the Victorian coast can be quite
remarkable. I vividly remember riding a motorbike along the Great
Ocean Road near Port Campbell some years ago with the highway running
roughly parallel to the boundary so that I kept alternating between
the two airmasses. The Bass Strait air was moist and cold enough to
need a jumper and jacket, while the inland air was so dry and hot that
even a T shirt would be uncomfortable. There was no wind at all, and
the boundary must have been only a few tens of metres across. Time of
day was late morning, and the only cloud was a bank of Sc out to sea.

I also remember arriving in Melbourne on the tasmanian ferry one early
morning in early January. It had been cold sailing across Port Philip
-- cold enough for a medium weight jumper -- but we ran through a
similar airmass boundary a few hundred metres from the shore as we
docked, and I reckon the temperature jumped 15C, and the humidity
dropped 80%. Again, there was no visible sign of the boundary.

Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Location
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 03:32:48 GMT
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I live at Blackheath in the upper Blue Mountains, and work at North
Sydney, and get around quite a bit. I'll preface any weather reports
with location and time.


Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
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I will looking out at car yards and so will not be available to chase this
arvo until later.

Jimmy

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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 14:49:47 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Laurier Williams wrote:
> The airmass boundary along the Victorian coast can be quite
> remarkable. I vividly remember riding a motorbike along the Great
> Ocean Road near Port Campbell some years ago with the highway running
> roughly parallel to the boundary so that I kept alternating between
> the two airmasses. The Bass Strait air was moist and cold enough to
> need a jumper and jacket, while the inland air was so dry and hot that
> even a T shirt would be uncomfortable. There was no wind at all, and
> the boundary must have been only a few tens of metres across. Time of
> day was late morning, and the only cloud was a bank of Sc out to sea.
> 
> I also remember arriving in Melbourne on the tasmanian ferry one early
> morning in early January. It had been cold sailing across Port Philip
> -- cold enough for a medium weight jumper -- but we ran through a
> similar airmass boundary a few hundred metres from the shore as we
> docked, and I reckon the temperature jumped 15C, and the humidity
> dropped 80%. Again, there was no visible sign of the boundary.

Another example: Bluey's Beach, NSW (20km Sth of Forster) between Dec
30, 1998 and January 2, 1998. We stayed in a beach house that was
perched on top of the hill that is right "on the beach" (great view)
about 12m up a steep, bush-cladded "sand hill" 50m or so from the
surf. There was bugger-all seabreeze to mention until the last day or
so when a NE synoptic wind pattern became evident. When it was calm in
the first 2 days, there was a marked difference in temperature between
the front yard of the house facing the street and the back of the
house facing the beach. I measured this on one occasion as 34C in the
front yard and elsewhere back from the beach and 25C at the back of
the house facing the beach. No awards to anyone for guessing where we
set up the picnic rug:-)

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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From: Local_Court_Maclean at agd.nsw.gov.au
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A room has now been made available on an Australian Server for Aussie
weather! So hopefully now we can get rid of that terrible lag!

here it is:

Austnet:Australia
#Aussie-Weather!

Please visit there anytime of the day! No more lag!! woohoo!

See you all there!

Paul Mossman
Taree/Maclean/anywhere!

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From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at nsw.bigpond.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: MRF 500mb geopotential v/s 500-1000mb thickness
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:38:16 +1100
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Michael
Your deductions are correct. 500mb geopotential is the distance between 0m
and the 500mb layer. The thickness is the distance between the 1000mb layer
(theoretical ) and the 500mb layer. As you explained, these are different.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Scollay 
>To: Aussie Weather 
>Date: Friday, 8 January 1999 13:23
>Subject: aussie-weather: MRF 500mb geopotential v/s 500-1000mb thickness
>
>
>Someone with more knowledge that me might be able to better explain
>why at http://grads.iges.org/pix/aus.fcst.html the plots of the 500mb
>geopotential and 500-1000mb thickness are different.
>
>>From the information provided, "500mb geopotential" is the height, in
>10's of metres, of the 500mb pressure level. The "500mb-1000mb"
>thickness is also the height, in 10's of metres between the 500mb
>geopotential and the 1000mb geopotential. Now, my deductionis that the
>plots differ since the 500mb geopotential is the height from the 500mb
>pressure level to sea-level including any variations of Mean Sea Level
>Pressure (MSLP) whereas the 500mb-1000mb thickness just tracks the
>height between the 500mb and 1000mb levels which would tend to
>undulate up and down according to MSLP. For example, with a "thickness
>of around 540 (5400) predominating, the 1000mb level might be 100m
>below sea level in a decent "east-coast low" of 990mb but some 400m
>above sea level in the middle of a 1040mb "high". This would result in
>a differing 500mb geopotential to thickness plot.
>
>Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 12:44:53 +0800
From: Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
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Greg Spencer
Padbury, Perth Wa

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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 23:09:53 -0700
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David (Excel) Boronia ,Melbourne,Victoria
at the base of the Dandenong Ranges

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Note that the room is #Weather and not aussie weather everybody!

see ya there
Paul

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Thanks all who helped with the answer to my question about model 
availability. 

I was surprised that the BOM has to wait so long for the ECMWF output.

 Also I was not clear what the time of the model run signified (ie was 
it the time the output was available and issued or the time that the 
processing commenced? From the responses to my question, I now 
understand it to be the latter).

Despite the implicit criticism in my posting about delays in data, I can 
still remember that it was not that long ago that data and information 
of the wealth and general timeliness now available on the web was just 
not accessible to general public (and probably not to many forecasters 
within the BOM either). For what is available now (particularly courtesy 
of US Govt agencies and many universities and also our own Bom [don't 
mention the radar!!])  I am certainly not ungrateful.

Patrick
>Blair Trewin wrote:
>
>> While I'm not familiar with this particular source, if it's only
>> updated once daily, 00z on 8 January isn't until 1100 AEDT, and
>> the model takes time to run, so I wouldn't expect to see it until
>> later. (The ECMWF run at 1200Z (2300 AEDT) doesn't usually turn up
>> at the Bureau until about 1200 AEDT the following day).
>>
>
>Also , the AVN Lifted Index (and the other variables) are usualy 
updated
>around 2:30pm most days (the 0z forecast, and the others updated 
through the
>afternoon and night).
>
>The NOGAPS and the AVN models are usualy updated by 4:30pm (0z 
forecast) or so
>of an afternoon, and I THINK about 4:30am (12z forecast) as well (it's
>normally fully updated when i wake up so i'm just guesing).

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Video mounts
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:55:34 +1100
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Thanks to all for the suggestions re mounting videos in cars - I'll do some
experimenting.

Jane
Melbourne

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: I fear no storm for Sydney - Wollongong
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 17:07:17 +1100
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I have a feeling that this current system is now a rain event in the above
mentioned areas, perhaps embedded thunder, but nothing severe.

The key storm part of the air mass ( clear air just ahead of trough ) moved
through overnight producing no storms. That area is now located from the
Hunter northwards and appears to be kicking off storms for them.

What a miserable season.

Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Video mounts
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 17:09:55 +1100
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Don't forget to post your pics on a web site, we would love to see another
Aussie site !

Michael


-----Original Message-----
>From: Jane ONeill 
>To: Aussie Weather 
>Date: Friday, 8 January 1999 16:55
>Subject: aussie-weather: Video mounts
>
>
>Thanks to all for the suggestions re mounting videos in cars - I'll do some
>experimenting.
>
>Jane
>Melbourne

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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: I fear no storm for Sydney - Wollongong
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I agree, this seems to now be the area to chase - I might have mentioned
that earlier ntu we would have to chase a fair way north.

Jimmy

At 05:07 PM 1/8/99 +1100, you wrote:
>I have a feeling that this current system is now a rain event in the above
>mentioned areas, perhaps embedded thunder, but nothing severe.
>
>The key storm part of the air mass ( clear air just ahead of trough ) moved
>through overnight producing no storms. That area is now located from the
>Hunter northwards and appears to be kicking off storms for them.
>
>What a miserable season.
>
>Michael Thompson

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From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au]
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:20:59 +1000
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Bill Webb, Proserpine, Queensland
  
Quiet and dry up here.

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From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Location
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 18:16:24 +1100
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Hi All
  
For those that don't know i live in the storm disapointment capital of
Australia, Melbourne, Victoria.
  
Here's hoping the front on Sunday will kick up something
  
Nick

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Lithgow Storm
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 18:27:58 +1100
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Hi All,

There was a large storm in Lithgow last night. Local flooding, blackouts, a
couple of transformers taken out by lightning and rail crossing boom gates
just out of Lithgow towards Bathurst were stuck in the closed position.

 Some Strat. Cum. here but doesn't look promising.
  28C, 1019hPa 25% Wind E 5 Knots.

  Terry.

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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 07:46:11 GMT
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On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 18:27:58 +1100, "Terry Bishop" 
wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>There was a large storm in Lithgow last night. Local flooding, blackouts, a
>couple of transformers taken out by lightning and rail crossing boom gates
>just out of Lithgow towards Bathurst were stuck in the closed position.
>
Last night or yesterday afternoon, Terry?  I noticed a pretty intense
and slow moving storm on radar close to Lithgow around 3pm. Lithgow
didn't send in a 3pm report yesterday, but had 39mm in the 24 hours to
9 this morning.

Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Lithgow Storm
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:03:48 +1100
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Hi Laurier,

Could not be sure of the time. I only heard the details on our Prime local
news. They did not state a time. I got the impression that it was last night
but I am probably wrong as usual.

  Terry.

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Jimmy may get a storm, but none for Wollongong
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 18:35:24 +1100
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Hi Jimmy

Radar indicates that a storm has moved from Lithgow way over you now, only
light rain here ( no thunder )

Michael Thompson
Mt Warrigal, Shellharbour, NSW
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I'm in Perth, WA, where the current temp is 33.5C at 4:45pm WST

Jacob

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From: "John  Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
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John Graham 
Ballina, North Coast N.S.W

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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 09:15:09 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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But where in Melbourne ???

> Nick Sykes wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> For those that don't know i live in the storm disapointment capital of
> Australia, Melbourne, Victoria.
> 
> Here's hoping the front on Sunday will kick up something
> 
> Nick

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Matt Smith from Burwood, Sydney here.

I just got back from a concert called the "Vans Warped Tour" a bunch of
aussie and international bands.. i took my camera (hoping for some action
today) but i put it in a mates bag and wouldnt you know it, in the crowd of
people someone ripped open his bag and everything fell out, and i can now
pretty safely assume my camera was trampled to bits in the concert :(
Sure it was only a point and shoot one, but thats all i have :(
seeya's tomorrow at the meeting.
Matt Smith

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But where in Perth??

Jacob wrote:
> 
> I'm in Perth, WA, where the current temp is 33.5C at 4:45pm WST
> 
> Jacob

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In the northern suburbs in Balga, current temp now at 6:20pm is 31.2C

Jacob

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Just heard from Paul Mossman that he thinks he will be arriving at approx
10.30am tomorrow, as he has to catch a bus from Taree, because the plane
was full.
Matt Smith

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Sorry!
Won't be able to get to the meeting tomorrow :(

Have fun!
Kevin Phyland.
Wycheproof.

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Orange Weather
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Hi All,

The most promising day we have had for a while. Some stratocumulus/cumulus.
At the moment there is a small amount of  altocumulus castellanus showing a
small level of updraught activity. Hopefully this might lead to a DECENT
storm later.

In the warm but fantastic city of Orange at the moment:
 26C, 1015, 35%, Slight E draft at about 1 Kt. The ACC cloud is coming in
from the west which is a good sign.


 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au