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001 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] Evan's Head Storm...
002 Peter Matters [pmatters at eck.net.au] Vic Storms 23/12/1999
003 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Vic Storms 23/12/1999
004 Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org] Evans Head Storm Enhanced NOAA 12 VIS...
005 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Fw: NASA NEW MILLENNIUM PROGRAM SELECTS ADVANCED EARTH OBSER
006 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Atlantic circulation anomalies
007 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] New Year's Day Storm Damage
008 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Happy New Year!!!!
009 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Interesting 1900 record for Adelaide
010 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au] Hello All
011 "Adam Mayo" [oyam at bigpond.com] Have a Look at this Site - Brisbane Storm
012 "Weatherhead" [weatherhead at ozemail.com.au] YEVD STORM///att Paul
013 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Have a Look at this Site - Brisbane Storm
014 astroman [astroman at chariot.net.au] SA Dust devil chase :)
015 Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org] Armidale Hail Storm...
016 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Yesterday's Supercell(s?) in SE QLD
017 Ben [bodie at flatrate.net.au] BSCH Products
018 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] Interesting 1900 record for Adelaide
019 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] More "mini tornadoes" in QLD
020 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] More "mini tornadoes" in QLD
021 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] More "mini tornadoes" in QLD
022 Ben [bodie at flatrate.net.au] More "mini tornadoes" in QLD
023 Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org] No Warning for Armidale Storm?
024 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] No Warning for Armidale Storm?
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001
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:50:05 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Evan's Head Storm...
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All:
Michael Bath wrote:
> I had a perfect view of this storm from it's initial development (chase
> report following soon) and it only indicated multicell, with new updrafts
> developing on the NW flank every 30 minutes or so. Very little
backshearing
I am not saying that this particular storm was a supercell, but I do want
to mention a word of caution when considering the visual (or often even the
radar appearance) of storms. As we all know, supercells are often
accompanied by a trailing flanking line of convective towers along the
outflow boundary. These same cells or congestus towers will normally
overtake and merge with the storms updraft region and often lose their
individual identity. However, not uncommonly, these cells will not lose
their identity but will travel through the storm complex, often along the
rear echo flank. But at other times, these or other flanking cells will
grow explosively and merge with the storm , playing a vital role in
production of additional mesocyclone cores and severe weather. Thus, both
on radar and visually the storm will exhibit both multicell and supercell
traits simultaneously.
Many have written on this process, including myself. For the first time
and in my first publication, I wrote on this process in 1970. I have
written on it again since.
Many of our concepts of steadiness and the 'single' cell nature of the
supercell were developed when radar resolution was relatively poor and the
visual storm appearance had little to do with storm research. Moreover,
many neglected the statements that the supercell was relatively steady and
single cellular for the periods of time required for a parcel of air to
pass into and through the storm. That did (and does) not mean that it
remained that way for much longer time spans. Note that researchers at the
National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in Boulder, CO during the
early 1980's even suggested a 'new' storm type called the "West Plains"
storm, which was more weakly multicellular and evolutionary than the
multicell storm but more unsteady and multicellular than our concept of the
supercell at that time. Now the primary storm classification system
includes only the "ordinary" and the "supercell" storm. Both may be
multicellular (and probably are). However, the secondary classification
scheme with includes the single cell, the multicellular cluster storm, the
supercell, and the multicellular line storm is still used as well. Many,
including myself, doubt the existence of truly single cell storms. As our
instrumentation resolution improves and our visual understanding improves
as well, the multicellular nature of all convection is becoming more widely
accepted.
Les
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Leslie R. Lemon
Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist
Phone: 816-373-3533
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 09:47:31 +1100
From: Peter Matters [pmatters at eck.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Vic Storms 23/12/1999
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Hi all happy New Year!
Peter here! I have sent Jane pics of the storms on the afternoon
of the 23/12/1999. So far I have not heard from her - is she on a well
earnt holiday?
Cheers, Peter(Didjman)
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 09:55:34 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Storms 23/12/1999
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Last I spoke with her, she was supposed to have travelled the southern
coast but when she was supposed to be back, I don't know.
Jimmy Deguara
At 09:47 2/01/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi all happy New Year!
> Peter here! I have sent Jane pics of the storms on the afternoon
>of the 23/12/1999. So far I have not heard from her - is she on a well
>earnt holiday?
>Cheers, Peter(Didjman)
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:21:34 +0000 (GMT)
From: Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org]
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Subject: aus-wx: Evans Head Storm Enhanced NOAA 12 VIS...
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Hi everyone,
I have put an enhanced NOAA 12 VIS image of the Evans Head storm
at: http://marconi.mpce.mq.edu.au/~paul/interesting/EvansHead.jpg
The image is from 1731 EDT, 31-12-99 ( I suppose that would be
0631Z)
I suspect the Evans Head cell is the N most cell on the picture.
Cheers,
Paul.
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005
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Subject: aus-wx: Fw: NASA NEW MILLENNIUM PROGRAM SELECTS ADVANCED EARTH OBSERVING CONCEPT
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:52:03 +1000
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Hi all! Hope you all had a lovely Christmas and excellent New Year.
Thought the following NASA press release may be of interest.
Cheers!
Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
martyp at dynamite.com.au
Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
3D Photography: http://www.bit.net.au/~erinm/3d
ICQ: 11790565
>NASA NEW MILLENNIUM PROGRAM SELECTS
>ADVANCED EARTH OBSERVING CONCEPT
>
> NASA will flight-test an instrument using new technologies to
>measure elements of Earth's atmosphere and to support space
>research aimed at reducing risks from severe weather. This
>measurement concept, known as the Geostationary Imaging Fourier
>Transform Spectrometer, has been selected as the next Earth-
>observing mission under NASA's New Millennium Program.
>
> The mission -- known as "Earth Observing 3" -- will test
>advanced technologies for measuring temperature, water vapor, wind
>and chemical composition with high resolution, in space and over
>time. Such sophisticated measurements have the potential for
>revolutionary improvements in weather observation and prediction,
>by providing unique observations of the spectral properties of
>clouds and the transport of pollutants in the atmosphere.
>
> "In 2003, this space flight demonstration will involve
>genuinely revolutionary measurement approaches that will have a
>major impact on Earth system science," said Dr. Ghassem Asrar,
>Associate Administrator for Earth Science, NASA Headquarters,
>Washington, DC. "The eventual incorporation of this technology on
>geostationary weather satellites would provide up-to-the-minute
>information, never before available, on active severe weather
>systems, such as hurricanes and tornados.
>
> "These observations will help improve the accuracy of the
>current three-day weather forecasts and extend the duration of
>forecasts up to five days during the next decade," Asrar said.
>
> Managed by NASA's Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA, the
>mission uses an advanced imaging spectrometer based on
>breakthrough technologies such as a large-area focal-plane array,
>new data-readout and signal-processing electronics, and passive
>thermal switching. Today's geostationary satellites observe
>Earth, its atmosphere and oceans in only a few selected spectral
>bands. This new instrument will improve observational
>capabilities to several hundred spectral bands that will provide
>both additional and more detailed information.
>
> NASA selected this concept from four finalist ideas culled
>from 24 proposals submitted in response to a NASA research
>announcement released in September 1997. The theme for the
>solicitation was to test innovative approaches for observing
>Earth's surface and atmosphere from positions outside low-Earth
>orbits, with an emphasis on advanced measurement concepts and
>technologies.
>
> The selection process was carried out by NASA Headquarters,
>and included evaluations of each concept study by external peer
>reviewers. The total NASA cost of the mission, including
>contribution to launch, is expected to be approximately $105
>million.
>
> The first Earth-orbiting mission under the New Millennium
>Program, Earth Observing 1, is scheduled for launch in spring of
>2000. Managed by NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt,
>MD, that mission will demonstrate an advanced land-imager system
>and hyperspectral imaging technologies that may eventually replace
>the current measurement approach used by Landsat satellites.
>Further information on the Earth Observing 1 mission is available
>on the Internet at URL:
>
> http://eo1.gsfc.nasa.gov/NUwww/miscPages/home.html
>
> Created in 1994, the New Millennium Program is designed to
>identify, develop and flight-validate advanced technologies that
>can lower costs and enable critical performance of future science
>missions in the 21st century. The program is managed by NASA's
>Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA, for NASA's Office of
>Earth Science and Office of Space Science, Washington, DC.
>Further information on the New Millennium program is available at
>URL:
>
> http://nmp.jpl.nasa.gov
>
> Information about NASA's Earth Science Enterprise, dedicated
>to understanding how human-induced and natural changes affect the
>Earth's total environmental system, is available at URL:
>
> http://www.earth.nasa.gov
>
> -end-
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 01:12:22 +0000
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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list -
There is apparently nothing wrong with the Atlantic circulation, please
take this warning in the same vein as Nostrodamus, the Millenium Bug,
the end of the world, flying white horses, etc.
So no need to get that really BIG boat built yet!
However, there is the North Wall effect which you Ozzies might find
fascinating reading (in times of SDS ) at the USN Norfolk website:
http://www.nlmoc.navy.mil/home1.shtml
Look for OTSR/MET/PUBS on the left (thats where it is in Netscape) then
OTSR / Northwall.
Les (UK)
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007
From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "aus-wx" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: New Year's Day Storm Damage
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:27:09 +1000
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Hi all
Paul in Darwin noted large hail was reported near Armidale yesterday. All I
heard was that the New England Highway in the vicinity was closed due to the
large amount of hail causing cars to skid off the road. I heard that on the
midnight news, but other than that I have no info.
A severe thunderstorm (among many) also occurred at Bundaberg, as reported
on the ABC site:
Bundaberg awaits repairs after storm
Emergency workers say it could be another two days before repair work can
begin on two Bundaberg homes damaged by a viscous storm last night.
Producing lightning, strong winds and hail the size of golf balls, the storm
lifted part a roof off a house and an attached garage.
The storm cell was among several that at one stage stretched from Gladstone
to the New South Wales border.
State Emergency Service local controller Beverly Thompson says the affected
properties have been temporarily secured.
"Probably because of the holiday it will be fairly difficult to get a
builder in," she said.
"It will probably be Tuesday before those jobs [are attended to].
"We've tarped [tarpaulined] the house and made sure it's very secure and the
builders will come in and probably have a look at it but it will probably be
Tuesday before they get access to building equipment."
There should be storms inland of us (Brisbane) today; already there are
storms developing in the Bundaberg region (Wide Bay & Burnett) as I type
this. Hopefully nothing serious will happen up that way.
Regards
James Chambers
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Happy New Year!!!!
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 100 13:58:46 +1100 (EST)
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> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! to everyone on the Aussie Weather List and Members of =
> ASWA.
>
> Looks like being a cold start to the century here in Blaxland. Wonder =
> what it was like when this one started way back in 1900.
>
> Matthew Piper
In Melbourne it was exceedingly hot - one of only 5 instances of three
or more consecutive days over 40. (Nhill reached 46 on New Year's Eve).
Definitely no repetition this year! (unless you're in WA)
Blair Trewin
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting 1900 record for Adelaide
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 100 14:07:04 +1100 (EST)
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>
> hi all,
>
> Just read the 1 Jan 1900 edition of our local paper the advertiser. In one
> section it stated that the temperature from the Observatory was 154.8F that
> is 68.222 C!!!!! I wonder how accurate this recording is could not possibly
> reached that temperature. The highest recorded temperature for the Adelaide
> area is 47.6c (117.68F) on the 12th of Jan 1939 (my dads birth date). I
> think it shows the inaccuracy of the instruments of the day or was it the
> Y1.9K bug :)
>
> Just an interesting pickup from the past,
It's probably an observation in the sun (readings in the sun were
taken routinely at that time). The screen temperatures were hot enough,
though - 41.8 on 31 December, 43.1 on 1 January, 42.1 on 2 January
(and the first two nights of the 1900s were both over 30). These are
Stevenson screen obs - I don't know what the Glaisher stand readings
were. (Adelaide kept dual records for ~60 years, and the 47.6 is a
Glaisher stand reading - the Stevenson screen that day recorded 46.1,
which will make for no end of confusion the day that Adelaide has
a maximum between 46.1 and 47.6!).
Blair Trewin
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From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Hello All
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:55:56 +1100
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Hello everyone.
Just a quick note to wish you all merry xmas and a happy new year.
No I have not died. I'm still here. Just a little busy.
Catch up soon.
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Grant Boyden
GB Commentary Productions
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From: "Adam Mayo" [oyam at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Have a Look at this Site - Brisbane Storm
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:03:57 +1100
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Dear All,
Don't know if everyone is aware of this site.
For those who haven't seen it have a look at the newspaper report on this
Brisbane Storm.
Judy Mayo.
012
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: YEVD STORM///att Paul
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I think that this is a good example and a good lesson on the difference
between what is on radar, and what a spotter actually sees. Sometimes storm
systems can look great on radar, and hint a possible supercell
characteristics, but plainly not be a supercell to the spotter observing. Of
course it works on the flip side. Some storms can look like nothing
sometimes yet hold features that the radar hasn't or can't pick up.
Daniel Weatherhead
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> Not supercell mate...have some excellent pics of it which will be posted
> soon....cheers Halden
>
>
> >From: Paul Graham
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Evan's Head Storm...
> >Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 20:19:08 +0000 (GMT)
> >
> >Interesting, certainly looked like a supercell on radar...Did anyone save
> >the radar scans?
> >- Paul G.
> >
> >On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Michael Bath wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Paul,
> > >
> > > Although I have not seen any radar of this, I can confirm that it was
> >not a
> > > supercell - definitely severe multicell which developed about 3.30pm
NW
> >of
> > > Grafton and cleared the coast through Evans Head after 6pm. The system
> >was
> > > slow moving and strong.
> > >
> > > I had a perfect view of this storm from it's initial development
(chase
> > > report following soon) and it only indicated multicell, with new
> >updrafts
> > > developing on the NW flank every 30 minutes or so. Very little
> >backshearing
> > > occurred. Precip was along a long line towards the E. Once the base
came
> > > into view, I could see lowerings in two to three places along the line
> > > indicating the separate updrafts.
> > >
> > > It did produce very strong winds (up to 50 knots) and small hail (was
> > > reported so far).
> > >
> > > Full description to follow.
> > >
> > > cheers, Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 19:26 31/12/1999 +0000, you wrote:
> > > >Hi everyone, I was watching the Evans Head storm on the radar
yesterday
> > > >afternoon and I suspect it was probably a supercell given the intense
> > > >radar echoes, long duration, NE movement relative to the NW steering
> >winds
> > > >and relative isolation compared to other cells to the SW. Although
> > > >difficult to discern from the Weatherwatch rdar, it also appeared to
> >have
> > > >a bow echo at one stage. Does anyone know if there was any damage
> > > >reported?
> > > >HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
> > > >- Paul G.
> > > >
> > > >
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 15:09:00 +1100
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Have a Look at this Site - Brisbane Storm
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Adam or Judy, he is a member of ASWA and yes that was a particularly severe
storm day
Jimmy Deguara
At 15:03 2/01/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>Don't know if everyone is aware of this site. For those who haven't seen
>it have a look at the newspaper report on this Brisbane Storm.
>
>
>http://www.
>ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm/oct13images.html
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>
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Subject: aus-wx: SA Dust devil chase :)
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Hi all,
Went up north today beyond Snowtown this time to have a look for some Dust
devils. I firstly stopped about 12 Km North of Pt Wakefield to watch a
farmer harvesting his crop and putting up heaps of dust, some of these
started to spin, but due to lack of heat on the ground I don't think they
got enough momentum up to keep rotating. From there I headed out towards
Snowtown, my original idea for going up that far was to see how they were
progressing after the 8/12/99 Supercell, which went through the area, still
quite a few trees still laying over and sheds still partly demolished.
Anyhow, I did not observe to many DDs (Dust-Devils) there so I decided to
keep going a little further, 20km's later I spotted about 3 to the side of
the road, I left the main road on the first available side road and headed
towards the DDs. They seemed to be coming off one paddock so I headed
straight for it, then the road went away from it (typical) I managed to
find another road that put me right in the path of them, but they died out
when I started shooting :(
From there I followed the road around and saw a few more smaller DDs but
there were twice the number feeding off one paddock, I decided to stop the
car and take some shots, a huge DD went across the road I took a few pics
of it. I headed towards the paddock which it came from and waited, nothing
hmmmm, I turned the car around then went up the road a bit, then turned
around again and came back to the original spot, BINGO about 4 or 5 DDs to
begin with, all very small but boy they were fast. I jumped out of the car
with camera in hand to photograph them, but when I got near them they died
(do you think by now I was getting peed off). It was only a matter of time
I saw approx 60 in a 2 hour period, not a bad effort, I did manage to chase
one on foot and get close enough to get some close up pictures, I also
tried my luck at core punching on, it was relatively small, but the wind
was pretty strong, took all my energy just to get to the thing. one I
managed to get inside it was cold, far from what I had expected, with me
jumping inside and disturbing the airflow, it collapsed, but regained
strength as it reached another paddock.
Over all I think it was a great success I will be planning on going out
that way again on Thursday or Friday, so if any SA chasers want to tag
along please let me know, I think it would be more fun with more ppl and
double the amount of camera equipment.
I have tagged this area "Dust-Devil Alley" :)
Loved every minute of it, in some way, I hate to say it, but it was more
fun than chasing a storm. Only because there were more of them and they are
fast. I wonder what a huge DD doing 300K's would be like :)
regards
Andrew Wall
State representative for S.A. and N.T.
Webmaster of The official South Australian Severe Weather watch homepage.
SASW - http://sastorms.virtualave.net
ASWA Inc. - http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:04:02 +0000 (GMT)
From: Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org]
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Subject: aus-wx: Armidale Hail Storm...
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Hi everyone,
This is all I could find on yesterday's Armidale hailstorm (from
the ABC News site). I also recall the Bureau reporting "Severe hail"
which I think means >5cm.
***************************************************************************
Armidale cleans up after storm
ARMIDALE: The clean up is continuing in Armidale in New South Wales's
north following a freak hail storm.
About 50 homes and other buildings have been damaged in the storm which
struck around 6:00pm yesterday.
Neville Clarke, from the Namoi Division of the State Emergency Service,
says his officers have been kept busy overnight.
"Some of those jobs would only be water leakage caused by the guttering on
the houses blocked up and overflowing into the houses. Some of them would
be roof damage, some would be glass damage," Mr Clarke said.
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 16:52:10 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi all,
Well...I saw a magnificant thunderstorm while showing relatives about
yesterday in the Brisbane valley. I told Jimmy that I'm fairly
confident that it was definately a supercell, as it definately appeared
to be rotating (although we never got that close to it). There was at
one stage, a "collar cloud" that had banded itself around in the
midlevel(ish) area of the main updraft, underneath a RFB. This was not
captured on video tape, but there is a short glimpse at an inflow band
into the base, and a suspicious lowering underneath. But the footage is
very brief, and it's difficult to discern whether it was a shallow WC or
not...but we'll see.
While going through the footage, there appears to be a long, thin,
bended tornado - again, footage was only brief (thanks to
forests/hills), but a little later, I have footage of the same scene,
but it appears to be a long, thin and very well bended hail shaft (?
focus kept going out because there was sometimes more foreground than
background...should have put it on manual override, so it may just be a
different intensity rain shaft). I have to go through the tape more
closely, but I'm fairly sure it was just a hail shaft..mind you if it
was, there was very strong outflow winds.
The updraft was very strong and impressive, going up into a backshearing
anvil. At times, there appears to be an overshoot...but you can't tell
very well due to the other cloud.
Because the terrain is so horrible, there's lots of brief 2-3second
shots of the storm.
Maybe I'll be able to go over to James' and use his video capture card
and people can judge for thsmselves, but we'll see.
After such an RS season, I was just ecstatic to see something that I
thought was spectacular. I suspect this wasn't the only supercell
yesterday either.
--
Anthony Cornelius
Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA)
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 20:02:28 +1100
From: Ben [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to inform the people that follow any of the BSCH products
(forecasts, recent events or weather potential) that they will be updated again
from tomorrow onwards.. we gave ourselves a holiday over the Christmas/New Year
period.. and ISP problems tonight (Anthony and i are both with the same ISP)
prevent the forecasts being updated..
BTW, i uploaded a picture taken late this afternoon..
http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/sky-pics/darkhorizon.jpg
As sad as it is, that was the highlight of the day for me! A bit of dark anvil
cirrus on the horizon.. apart from the lightning show on Friday night, the
whole weekend was a bit of a fizzer in Brisbane itself.. some great storms on
radar, but all west and north of us..
Wednesday or Thursday should be our next storm day - it seems we're always
looking ahead!!!
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>It's probably an observation in the sun (readings in the sun were
>taken routinely at that time). The screen temperatures were hot enough,
>though - 41.8 on 31 December, 43.1 on 1 January, 42.1 on 2 January
>(and the first two nights of the 1900s were both over 30). These are
>Stevenson screen obs - I don't know what the Glaisher stand readings
>were. (Adelaide kept dual records for ~60 years, and the 47.6 is a
>Glaisher stand reading - the Stevenson screen that day recorded 46.1,
>which will make for no end of confusion the day that Adelaide has
>a maximum between 46.1 and 47.6!).
>
>Blair Trewin
Blair (or anyone else) - what excactly does a Glaisher stand look like anyway?
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 20:58:38 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi all,
On the news this evening, they had reports of damage at Bundaberg from
wind. One person's house had its roof completely removed intact, and
had tropical cyclone shutters blown in!!! There was also other
scattered house/tree damage.
They went on to say "the twister did..." etc etc...and then said
"...experts said it was a microburst, which causes tornado-like
winds..."
I was wondering how rotational, upward motion winds, could be analogous
to straight line downward winds (although towards the end, there can be
some upward motion)...but oh well!
Some awesome footage of the Armidale hailstorm too...with some home
footage of some one saying "and here's another hailstorm..." - Jimmy
should move to Armidale!!! :)
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(ASWA)
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QLD, 4153
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 11:27:35 +0000
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
Organization: Cosmic EuroCon - note all times in GMT
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Anthony Cornelius wrote:
>
> They went on to say "the twister did..." etc etc...and then said
> "...experts said it was a microburst, which causes tornado-like
> winds..."
AAAAAAAAARGH!!!!
Les(UK)
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 11:30:21 +0000
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> Hi all,
>
> On the news this evening, they had reports of damage at Bundaberg
This was from the BBC website as regards the severe weather in France last
week....
Another powerful storm has hit France as western Europe struggles to recover
from devastating weekend storms that have left more than 80 people dead.
France has borne the brunt of the tornado-strength winds
AAAARGGHHHH!!!
Les(UK)
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 21:21:37 +1100
From: Ben [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi everyone,
There was also a report of Hail, and a blackout from a storm in Mitchell (in
the Maranoa and Warrego) today as well.. there have been some strong storms
over the last few days in southern QLD, lots of hail out there too i bet -
lucky it's quite sparsely populated..
Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On the news this evening, they had reports of damage at Bundaberg from
> wind. One person's house had its roof completely removed intact, and
> had tropical cyclone shutters blown in!!! There was also other
> scattered house/tree damage.
>
> They went on to say "the twister did..." etc etc...and then said
> "...experts said it was a microburst, which causes tornado-like
> winds..."
>
> I was wondering how rotational, upward motion winds, could be analogous
> to straight line downward winds (although towards the end, there can be
> some upward motion)...but oh well!
>
> Some awesome footage of the Armidale hailstorm too...with some home
> footage of some one saying "and here's another hailstorm..." - Jimmy
> should move to Armidale!!! :)
>
> --
> Anthony Cornelius
> Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> (ASWA)
> (07) 3390 4812
> 14 Kinsella St
> Belmont, Brisbane
> QLD, 4153
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> reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 05:36:56 +0000 (GMT)
From: Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org]
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This is from AAP:
"Another SES spokesman said this week's storm had caught weather watchers
by surprise.
"It was a freak in that there was no warning out for the area," the
spokesman said.
"The weather bureau was monitoring the storm on their radar but I don't
think they expected it to be as sudden and as severe as it ended up
turning out."
Mr Babington said the biggest repair bills were normally found inside
homes with water damaged appliances and furniture resulting from
hail-blocked roof gutters.
Hail stones were still lying on the ground at lunchtime today as SES
volunteers covered the last few damaged homes with tarpaulins. "
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 22:49:25 +1100
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I taped the news footage of the event. Seems the largest hailstones were
around up to golf ball size but mostly smaller. Pretty good coverage
nevertheless
Jimmy Deguara
At 05:36 2/01/00 +0000, you wrote:
>This is from AAP:
>
>"Another SES spokesman said this week's storm had caught weather watchers
>by surprise.
>
>"It was a freak in that there was no warning out for the area," the
>spokesman said.
>
>"The weather bureau was monitoring the storm on their radar but I don't
>think they expected it to be as sudden and as severe as it ended up
>turning out."
>
>Mr Babington said the biggest repair bills were normally found inside
>homes with water damaged appliances and furniture resulting from
>hail-blocked roof gutters.
>
>Hail stones were still lying on the ground at lunchtime today as SES
>volunteers covered the last few damaged homes with tarpaulins. "
>
>
>
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