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001 Paul Mossman [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au] Arizona storm
002 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] Adelaide radar strange
003 Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org] Looking good for Sydney tomorrow
004 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Another ASWA meeting
005 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Storm chase today - storms developing already 6:30EST
006 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Storm Chase
007 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Happy 21st Birthday to two QLD ASWA Members!
008 "Weatherhead" [weatherhead at ozemail.com.au] Storm CHase and Squall line
009 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au] NSW Severe Storm advice
010 "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com] Weather Radar Problem
011 "Halden Boyd" [haldenboyd at hotmail.com] severe storm advices for NSW
012 astroman [astroman at chariot.net.au] Weather Radar Problem
013 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au Weather Radar Problem
014 "Halden Boyd" [haldenboyd at hotmail.com] Evans Head Storm Enhanced NOAA 12 VIS...
015 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au That European storm...........
016 "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com] Radar ok now
017 astroman [astroman at chariot.net.au] SA Page updated once again.
018 Tom Johnstone [Iain.Johnstone at pse.unige.ch] SA Page updated once again.
019 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Severe Thunderstorm Advice - Perth
020 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] West wind spoils the show ...again X%$# at
021 Tom Johnstone [Iain.Johnstone at pse.unige.ch] Fohn wall clouds
022 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au] Strong Winds
023 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com] Melb morning storms
024 Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org] Post-frontal storms for E NSW?
025 "Andrew McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au] Macca is back!
026 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] New Pix...
027 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Happy 21st Birthday to two QLD ASWA Members!
028 serco at key.net.au Hi! and mysterious Cirrus?
029 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Armidale Hailstorm
030 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Hi! and mysterious Cirrus?
031 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Storm Chase
032 Ben [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Happy 21st Birthday to two QLD ASWA Members!
033 "James Pickett" [juxie_69 at hotmail.com] ASWA 2000 initiative
034 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Post-frontal storms for E NSW?
035 Paul Mossman [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au] ASWA 2000 initiative
036 "Andrea Baynes" [abaynes at ozemail.com.au] Victorian Storms
037 "Andrea Baynes" [abaynes at ozemail.com.au] Antartica
038 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Storm Chase
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001
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 22:46:49 +0930
From: Paul Mossman [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
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Hey did anyone see the footage of the Arizona storm? Tonnes of hail.
Hope you saw it Jimmy - it was great - better then Armidale!!
Paul.
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:25:33 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide radar strange
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All:
Anthony Cornelius and Matthew Pearce, both commented:
>On a more serious note...that's a huge rainband (yellow/green), and not
>a cloud nearby on sat pics!!!
> On this note, the same thing has happened to Sydney before - both local
and
> broad. The radar has indicated bands of rain(mostly coastal showers)
ranging
> from dark blue right up to pink at times when it is obvious that there is
no
> rain around - especially as it passes over your house and you see clear
blue
> sky outside!
Not having seen what you are talking about, I can not be sure, but I do
suspect what is called "Anomalous Propagation" (AP) of the radar beam.
Owing to sharp gradients in temperatures and humidity such as associated
with a low-level inversion, the radar beam, when it is only slightly
elevated (~ 0.5 degrees or ~1 degree), will "skip" off this inversion. It
will illuminate the ground by skipping off this inversion in a downward
direction to the ground and the backscattered power will return to the
radar along the same channel it followed on the outbound transmission.
Indications of this radar 'artifact' are many "popcorn" echoes. That is
there a many, small but intense echoes, not uncommonly arranged in a line
or area around, but relatively near the radar. These echoes will change
with time but will not normally move at all. These echoes will extend
upward for very short distances. Further elevation of the radar antenna
will usually result in disappearance of these echoes all together.
So, as a first guess, I would suspect AP is what you are seeing. BTW, AP
is more often seen in the night time or early morning hours. Usually
daytime boundary layer mixing of the airmass will mix out the low-level
inversion and the AP will disappear. However, a change in airmass such as
associated with stronger fronts or thunderstorm outflow will also sometimes
cause AP.
Les
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Leslie R. Lemon
Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist
Phone: 816-373-3533
E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:32:12 +0000 (GMT)
From: Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking good for Sydney tomorrow
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I'll agree with you on this one - the winds are looking favourable too.
- Paul G>
On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Michael Thompson wrote:
> Typical as I will be back at work !
>
> LI's are -4 for a large area of the Illawarra - Central coast by
> afternoon, -8 early in afternoon on south coast.
>
> Also the first time this season I have seen CAPE over 1000 predicted for PM
> in the Illawarra.
>
> The worry will be the timing of the SE change, too early and the show will
> move north.
>
>
> Michael Thompson
> http://thunder.simplenet.com
>
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Another ASWA meeting
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Hi members and guests,
Another meeting is to take place on Saturday evening the 15th January 2000.
The meeting will be of the form of a meeting/video night. There are quite a
few videos from the recent End-Of-year-Chase, the Newcastle event, and
Michael Thompson has hinted he has some US hail footage to be shown -
certainly interesting.
Time: as per normal after 5:30pm or later if chase is on - contact Matt
Smith - 0407069693 or Jimmy Dgeuara if chase is on that day 0408020468
Location: please note that for this meeting, the location will be at Matt
Smith's house
7 Sym Ave Burwood NSW
What do I bring along?? Please bring money for the pizza and also a chair
unless you like standing around or laying on the ground. Bring your own drinks.
Take this opportunity to attend if you already haven't in the past. Please
write this on the calendar or diary if you have forgotten in the past. It
is quite likely I will give another reminder.
If you are not attending the usual apologies should be sent to my e-mail
please: jedguara at ihug.com.au
Jimmy Deguara
President and NSW State Representative of ASWA
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 07:45:19 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Storm chase today - storms developing already 6:30EST
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Well, it looks like an excellent day for storms. Not often do you see
storms popping up very early around Sydney. It is 7:30local time (6:30EST)
and to the SW storms have popped up (and are shooting straight through).
They are facing E-SE although I suspect will move E-NE. This is an
indication from experience of very unstable conditions and also that
hailstorms are likely.
Now satpics are indicating a dense blob of cloud on the S coast which is
part of a prefrontal trough. I would anticipate that development will
further N of this band since the trough is oriented northwards so sometime
this afternoon there will be storms around Sydney. But on top of this I
believe isolated storms will develop around and ahead of the trough zone.
Target areas: 1 can stay around Sydney,
2 can move SW
3 or move W or NW to get these other isolated storms.
Shear is the real key and moisture although judging from what I am seeing,
moisture doesn't seem to be the problem.
I will study the models and make the deicision.
At this stage, I will be chasing with Matt Smith and Ben Munro (welcome to
chasing Ben!!)
my Mobile number 0408020468
Matt Smith 0407 069 693 we will be in separate cars and Ben Munro
at this stage will be with Matt Smith
I wouldn't mind others chasing different areas today so that we can cover a
large area. Any of the target zones will be ideal although I haven't
checked the shear and moisture situation.
Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 08:52:10 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Storm Chase
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Please if anyone gives updates, don't just concentrate on radar. Sure give
radar updates of where cells are where we are. I am more or so interested
in latest satpic updates to detect where the trough lines are so please
have them handy if you call. Major cells that can develop in a good shear
environment like today will easily be detected on satpics.
my Mobile number 0408020468
Matt Smith 0407 069 693
Now David Croan and Paul Graham may also head out as well
Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 09:28:43 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Happy 21st Birthday to two QLD ASWA Members!
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Hi all,
I'd like to wish two QLD ASWA members, a very special and happy 21st
birthday! Ben Quinn celebrates his 21st birthday two, and John Sweatman
celebrates his 21st birthday on Thursday.
On behalf of ASWA, I wish them all the best for their future!
--
Anthony Cornelius
Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA)
(07) 3390 4812
14 Kinsella St
Belmont, Brisbane
QLD, 4153
Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "Weatherhead" [weatherhead at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Storm CHase and Squall line
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:07:14 +1100
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A nice squall line is quickly forming west of sydney, from
orange to goulburn. I also i am going out to chase.
My mobile is 0402 091479
Any updates would be great.
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 11:17:06 +1100
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From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: NSW Severe Storm advice
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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1100 on Tuesday the 4th of January 2000
This advice affects people in the following weather districts:
North West Slopes and Plains
Central West Slopes and Plains
Central Tablelands
Illawarra
Thunderstorms are already occurring within the advice area and are forecast
to become more widespread this afternoon.
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones,
destructive winds and very heavy rainfall.
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Jimmy, Matt and Ben were at Rooty Hill when I last spoke to them, and were
going to see what spreads into the Sydney area.
cheers, Michael
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Subject: aus-wx: Weather Radar Problem
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:11:38 +1100
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Having trouble getting on to the weather radar site at the
moment. My password does not work any one having similar problems? Dane Newman.
Ps had a bit of storm between 4 and 5am this morning, lightning every few
seconds mostly cc but one or two cg's. 4.4mm of rain to 9am.
011
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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 17:41:12 PST
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IDW16N00
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1230 on Tuesday the 4th of January 2000
This advice replaces that issued at 1100 hr and now affects people in
the following weather districts:
North West Slopes and Plains
Central West Slopes and Plains
Central Tablelands,
Hunter,
Illawarra,
and Sydney Metropolitan
Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this afternoon and
into the evening
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones,
destructive winds and very heavy rainfall.
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Radar Problem
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I have no problems with it, maybe email Michael Fewings with whats
happening at webmaster at severeweather.asn.au
I am sure he can point you in the right direction.
At 12:11 PM 4/01/00 +1100, you wrote:
Having trouble getting on to the
weather radar site at the moment. My password does not work any one
having similar problems? Dane Newman. Ps had a bit of storm between 4 and
5am this morning, lightning every few seconds mostly cc but one or two
cg's. 4.4mm of rain to 9am.
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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:17:34 +0930
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gday Dane.
Remember its the 1st Tuesday of the month. BOM changes there password - then
ASWA does.
:-)
Paul.
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Evans Head Storm Enhanced NOAA 12 VIS...
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 17:51:04 PST
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Paul that looks like the one
>From: Paul Graham
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>Subject: aus-wx: Evans Head Storm Enhanced NOAA 12 VIS...
>Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:21:34 +0000 (GMT)
>
>Hi everyone,
> I have put an enhanced NOAA 12 VIS image of the Evans Head storm
>at: http://marconi.mpce.mq.edu.au/~paul/interesting/EvansHead.jpg
> The image is from 1731 EDT, 31-12-99 ( I suppose that would be
>0631Z)
> I suspect the Evans Head cell is the N most cell on the picture.
>Cheers,
> Paul.
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Subject: aus-wx: That European storm...........
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:53:07 +0930
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Howdy all.
Great satpic of that Intense Low that caused all those deaths etc.
here : http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Current/STMeurope363_MT.jpg
amazing picture.
Paul
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From: "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Radar ok now
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:43:28 +1100
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Thanks for everyone who replied re Radar Access problems.
Everything seems ok now, thanks again. Dane.
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 14:46:48 +1030
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Subject: aus-wx: SA Page updated once again.
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Hi everyone,
A few more updates on the SA page,
1> added a guestbook to the second main page under the SA graphic and menu.
2> added 4 images of Dust Devils taken Sunday 2nd of Jan, 2000.
3> added a weather summary for each day in 2000.
4> added more pictures to Phils Gallery and Andrew's Gallery.
Hope this keeps you happy for now.
Andrew Wall
15 Elio Drv,
Paralowie, 5108
South Australia.
PH (home) - (08) 82854590
State representative for S.A. and N.T. Division of the Australian Severe
Weather Association Inc.
Webmaster of The official South Australian Severe Weather watch homepage.
South Australian Severe Weather page - http://sastorms.virtualave.net
ASWA Inc. - http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: Tom Johnstone [Iain.Johnstone at pse.unige.ch]
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At 02:46 PM 1/4/00 +1030, you wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>A few more updates on the SA page,
>
Very nice pages Andrew. I was especially interested in your pages on
cloudnados and Fohn Wall clouds. The clouds forming over the tops of
mountains due to incoming cold air, and then the downslope winds sound just
like what happens very often on Table Mountain in Cape Town. There they
call the effect the table loth, because indeed it looks like a table cloth
draped over the top of the mountain. It's fascinating to watch as the cloud
comes over the top of the mountain and visibly flows down the side,
disappating quite suddenly at a certain height. I haven't heard anyone talk
of the cloudnados in Cape Town, but maybe they do occur? BTW, I watched
exactly the same effect on Bluff Knoll in the WA Stirling Ranges when I was
there a few weeks ago. That was brought on by a very strong SE wind blowing
into a "heat trough" which extended north from the Stirlings on that
particular day. There were thunderstorms building to the NE at the time.
Luckily, we had seen the thunderstorms building while on top of one of the
peaks, and we managed to get down the moutain before the cloud blanket
formed (although a tiger snake across the hiking trail kept us waiting for
a while).
Tom Johnstone
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Some nice storms to north of Perth, a Severe Thunderstorm Advice is out,
still quite hot, 36C at 2pm.
PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued at 2:15 pm WST on Tuesday, 4 January 2000
People in the Lower West and Central West Districts [including the Perth
Metropolitan area] and western parts of the Central Wheatbelt are advised that
there is a risk of severe thunderstorms during this afternoon and evening.
Storms may be accompanied by strong squally winds that could result in
damage to
property.
The State Emergency Service advises that people should keep a lookout for
thunderstorms and if storms approach secure loose items, then stay indoors
until
the storms have passed. Driving conditions may be hazardous.
This Thunderstorm Advice will be updated at 5.30 pm.
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Things were looking great until about 2pm when winds changed to the west.
All storm activity rapidly contracted NE.
I hope the lads who were off today ( Jimmy, etc ) saw what was occurring and
headed towards the upper Hunter.
I really think that these pre frontal NW/W wind changes ( in Southern NSW )
are one area which present forecasts and models never seem to pick up, I can
sympathise as it is almost a lottery, but they account for IMHO for most
incorrect forecasts during Spring and early Summer. Usually the daytime
maximum will go higher than the forecast, and often by a large margin, and
as seen today the thunderstorm chance just nose dives as lower level
mositure is sweep away.
Any thoughts on how these pre frontal NW/W can be predicted. ?
Michael Thompson
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A few additions to my previous email. The wind at the Stirling Ranges was a
strong SE wind, and there was a heat trough and associated thunderstorms
building up to the NW (not the NE as I had said). My (ignorant) guess is
that the Stirlings on that day were right at the boundary of the cooler air
from the SE and the warm, humid air in the NW. I took a couple of photos,
although they were more tourist photos than weather ones, but if they turn
out okay I'll upload them to the WWW somewhere.
Another thing - the Fohn (actually a German word) is very well known just
to the north of the Alps as the warm wind that comes from the south and
blows over the Alps, causing quite long stretches of grey, dull weather. It
seems there are many superstitions in Europe about the winds, although the
"superstition" that when the Fohn blows, the number of suicides and people
"going crazy" increases seems to have some basis in truth.
Tom
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 18:52:56 +1100
From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]
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Hello Everyone
Very strong winds here at the moment with a low developing in Bass
Straight
overnight. No rain here but the in eastern part of the state Launceston
has had 25mm since 9am.
Have a look at Cape Grim!!
>From the airport at 6pm wind SE at 23 Gusting 33KT
Hobart
S at 17 Gusting 28KT. Rain 38mm since 9am.
TASMANIAN COASTAL REPORTS
Issued at 1548 on Tuesday the 4th of January 2000
CAPE SORELL
WIND S 28KT
Wave rider significant wave height: 4.1m
Maximum height over the past 3 hours: 8.1m
Average period: 9.3sec
MARRAWAH
WIND SSE 30KT
CAPE GRIM
WIND S 51KT. GUSTS TO 68KTS.
MAATSUYKER IS
WIND SE 24KT
SEA MODERATE HEIGHT 1.25-2.5M
SWELL SW MODERATE HEIGHT 3M
DISTANT PRECIPITATION
WILSONS PROM
WIND W 47KT
SEA ROUGH HEIGHT 2.5-4M
SWELL MODERATE HEIGHT 2-4M
VISIBILITY 4000M SHOWERS
Chas
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Hi all, seems I was the only one who was woken up this morning at 4am or so
by the lovely sound of rolling thunder. I thought I was dreaming but a
bright flash a couple of seconds later had me jumping (as much as you can at
that time of the day ) and going to my back verandah to have a look. The
rain wasn't too heavy but the lightning was reasonable - enough to keep me
watching for a little while. Great cold air CB's all day but especailly this
morning and the forecast is for a pretty stormy/windy night though the broad
radar for Melb appears to have the rain heading more towards Gippsland than
Melbourne :/.
The report on Andrew McDonalds and my chase to Kerang, Deniliquin etc on
Boxing Day will hopefully be posted within the next week or so on MSC - Jane
will no doubt inform of any updates once I have sent the essay to her - pics
may take a bit longer to get online though.
Many storms to you all (looking good in quite a few areas tonight and for
the next day or two)
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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 03:28:19 +0000 (GMT)
From: Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org]
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Hi all,
Looks like the air behind the front may be unstable enough to
trigger some a'noon thunderstorms for E NSW tomorrow with 500 temps
forecast at -15 and surface temps in the mid 20's - although DP"s may be a
bit on the low side. Upper winds behind the change may also help to
enhance any storms that form. - Paul G>
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From: "Andrew McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Macca is back!
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 20:17:34 +1100
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Hey All,
Firstly, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to
all.
Secondly, I'm only back until tomorrow
morning.
I've been chasing (on the 26th), then
camping/holidaying/drinking, etc down on the Great Ocean Road for the last week
or so and I'm heading back down that way tomorrow to catch the low tide at Lorne
Point for a decent surf (which was looking good when I left at 3pm this
arvo.)
PLEASE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY - Be careful if when
chasing (or in general) you venture onto dirt roads!!!!! On the 26th,
Chris and I ventured (purely by accident) onto a dirt road and safely got back
onto the bitumen about 20 mins later. Down at Apollo Bay (where I was
camping) I thought I'd go for a drive to see some waterfalls last week and lost
control on a dirt road and hit an embankment at aout 30km/h. (well i was
kinda rally driving so....) Thankfully, the heavy rain on the two previous
days made this embankment like foam rubber and it absorbed the impact and no
damage was done. Two days later one of my friends took another dirt road
to a lookout and he lost control (he was actually driving very sensibly too -
the road is terribly made). He and his passenger ended up in hospital
after the car went off the side of a hill and rolled several times.
If it had gone another 3 metres they would've probably still been sitting (no
doubt dead) in the car at the bottom of the 7 metre drop which they somehow
managed to miss. Thankfully they are both OK. I took a drive up this
road to check out the car yesterday and I was driving at 20km/h and the car
was sliding out a little and it was damn scary. PLEASE TAKE EXTRA
CARE ON THE DIRT ROADS. I can guarantee you that I have slowed down a
bucket load since that accident which could've killed my friends and I hope
everyone takes heed and slows down a little without having to have the daylights
scared out of you by something like this.
-----------------------------
On a lighter note - I saw the best, and i repeat
THE BEST, Accas I have ever seen yesterday down at Apollo Bay in late
arvo (just on sunset but unfortunately was camera-less.
We got absolutely hammered last night and this
morning down on the coast by strong winds (probably to about 70kmh in
gusts) and heavy rain - which was hell in a tent (but fun). Still very
strong gusts with squally showers in Melbourne this evening (gust of about
60km/h as I was beggining this email). Cold too.
I'll be back on Saturday arvo (but not on here
until Sunday). Have a good week - good storms (more storms) to you
all!
Andrew McDonald
(Macca)
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Subject: aus-wx: New Pix...
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Hi every1,
Finally got some (very badly) scanned pix up from the last two months...
Go to http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/manchester/4/
then Section D...
then [4] = late November 99
[5] = December 99 (one bomb + wall cloud...)
[6] = I'm not sure... you tell me!
Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 10:14:17 +0000
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Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to wish two QLD ASWA members, a very special and happy 21st
> birthday! Ben Quinn celebrates his 21st birthday two, and John Sweatman
> celebrates his 21st birthday on Thursday.
21 Years Old.......
Whazzat then???
Les (UK)
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From: serco at key.net.au
Subject: aus-wx: Hi! and mysterious Cirrus?
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Hi all!
I'm David Sercombe (Coffs Harbour, NSW) and I recently joined the
Aussie Weather mailing list.
I saw something really interesting today.
This afternoon, at about 2:00pm I saw some cirrus cloud with the colours
of the rainbow in it. At first I thought it was a rainbow and started to
look where the rain was coming from. The cirrus had at one end, the start
of the visible spectrum and at the other end the finish of it.
There was a second `strand' just below it with the same thing.
Is this a rare thing or has anyone heard or know about anything like this?
I would have thought that due to the early thunderstorm activity around
Sydney that there would have been some good storms around here this
afternoon.
However, the weather up here has been unstable all afternoon and evening
and there has already been a weak storm at about 6:30pm which seemed to get
stronger as it went further NE.
I think that after reading the current STA there will probably be a
storm during the night.
David Sercombe
serco at key.net.au
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Hi Everyone
A mate of mine who left 3 days ago for a 30 day 4WD trip around NSW/QLD/NT
was in armidale the other day, yes, in the middle of the hailstorm. He just
rang me now, (he is in rockhampton)
Anyway to cut a long story short, I asked him if by any chance he managed
to take some photos, and he said "yeah a couple, but i dont know how they
will turn out, i didnt want to stick my head out the window" , he said it
looked like snow with at least 10cm drifts on sides of roads. I asked him
what the max size was and he said at the most golf ball size, most smaller.
He also said there were very few hail dents in his 4WD.. must be as tough
as Jimmys old car:)
So yeah, looks like we will get a few photos of the hail, hope they come
out good, just thought id let everyone know. When he comes back ill get
them off him and scan them and throw them on my website.
Matt Smith
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Hi David,
Thanks for your enquiry. Great to hear you joined the list - hopefully you
take the next step and join ASWA!!! Just kidding - that is entirely up to you.
I know what you are talking about. It is a halo caused by the ice crystals
in the cloud (certain level altostratus cloud) refracting the light. You
will see a similar thing at night caused by the moon.
Like I said, this occurs with a certain level of cloud. I actually now can
predict when it will occur.. because of that type of cloud. It mostly
occurs with the setting sun or sunrise - I saw it this morning as well to
the E. It occasionally can occur during the day as well but may appear a
little different.
Just out of interest, farmers use that as a sign to suggest bad weather is
coming over the next week or so!!! We will see...
To see a couple of examples go to:
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/index.html
and click on halos...
Jimmy Deguara
At 20:14 4/01/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi all!
>
>I'm David Sercombe (Coffs Harbour, NSW) and I recently joined the
>Aussie Weather mailing list.
>
>I saw something really interesting today.
>
>This afternoon, at about 2:00pm I saw some cirrus cloud with the colours
>of the rainbow in it. At first I thought it was a rainbow and started to
>look where the rain was coming from. The cirrus had at one end, the start
>of the visible spectrum and at the other end the finish of it.
>
>There was a second `strand' just below it with the same thing.
>
>Is this a rare thing or has anyone heard or know about anything like this?
>
>
>I would have thought that due to the early thunderstorm activity around
>Sydney that there would have been some good storms around here this
>afternoon.
>
>However, the weather up here has been unstable all afternoon and evening
>and there has already been a weak storm at about 6:30pm which seemed to get
>stronger as it went further NE.
>
>I think that after reading the current STA there will probably be a
>storm during the night.
>
>David Sercombe
>
>
>serco at key.net.au
>
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I won't say much as others will about the chase. It was great and it was
disappointing. We had great explosive cells in the morning that had
overshoots and then eventually merged into a squall line formation. Later
after we turned down the offer to go to the Hunter I felt too hot and the
winds weren't that favourable anyway despite the severe storms.
But anyway, as the dry air came through, we decided to go to the Camden
pub. We discussed plans of a new ASWA 2000 initiative to spend 2 billion
dollars and build a land strip 200km out from the coastline so we couldn't
care less what happened to prefrontal troughs!!!
Just a make up story but some peed off chasers were willing to get their
hands out and do it after today!!!!
Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 21:17:06 +1100
From: Ben [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Anthony, everyone..
Thankyou Anthony!
I was hoping for some storms for my Birthday, and there is an outside chance
that i well get some with lightning up to once every 3 seconds (but mostly 10
seconds +) to my SW - and an interesting storm on radar with quite a nice bow
in it..
I took this picture late this afternoon
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/sky-pics/afternoon.jpg
Tomorrow is looking EXCELLENT for us! LI's are forecast to go down to -6, and
CAPE forecasts are alternating between 1800 and 2200 - quite nice..
Les Crossan wrote:
> Anthony Cornelius wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'd like to wish two QLD ASWA members, a very special and happy 21st
> > birthday! Ben Quinn celebrates his 21st birthday two, and John Sweatman
> > celebrates his 21st birthday on Thursday.
>
> 21 Years Old.......
>
> Whazzat then???
>
> Les (UK)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
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> Wallsend, Tyne & Wear, UK 54-59N 01-30W
> UK Storm Chaser
> Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)- Victoria
> Tornado and Storm Research Organisation (TORRO) - UK
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Jim,
Great idea! Have you considered a ship? I can see it now, we could
even name it, the Queen Weathernut or something.
Imagine that, i wander what sought of captains we would all make, who
knows, Gilligans island might exist afterall...
Regards
James.
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>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 21:44:54 +1100
>
>We decided to go to the Camden
>pub. We discussed plans of a new ASWA 2000 initiative to spend 2 billion
>dollars and build a land strip 200km out from the coastline so we couldn't
>care less about pre- frontal troughs.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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I hope that you are right Paul. Actually some congestus tried hard to get
going just offshore this afternoon, this despite the bone dry surface
conditions.
Most probably the winds will be southerly tomorrow, however I will stick my
neck out and suggest that a brief flick to NE is not out of the picture,
this sometimes happens when the low/trough combo runs too far ahead of the
high in the bight.
Michael
> Hi all,
> Looks like the air behind the front may be unstable enough to
> trigger some a'noon thunderstorms for E NSW tomorrow with 500 temps
> forecast at -15 and surface temps in the mid 20's - although DP"s may be a
> bit on the low side. Upper winds behind the change may also help to
> enhance any storms that form. - Paul G>
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 21:45:56 +0930
From: Paul Mossman [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
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Better still - have a decent landmass that connects Antartica to
Australian mainland
thatll give you all the twisters ya need
and enough snow to make Michael Scollay change his name to
"frosty......."
Paul.
James Pickett wrote:
>
> Jim,
> Great idea! Have you considered a ship? I can see it now, we could
> even name it, the Queen Weathernut or something.
> Imagine that, i wander what sought of captains we would all make, who
> knows, Gilligans island might exist afterall...
> Regards
> James.
>
> >From: Jimmy Deguara
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> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: aus-wx: Storm Chase
> >Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 21:44:54 +1100
> >
> >We decided to go to the Camden
> >pub. We discussed plans of a new ASWA 2000 initiative to spend 2 billion
> >dollars and build a land strip 200km out from the coastline so we couldn't
> >care less about pre- frontal troughs.
> >
> >Jimmy Deguara
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From: "Andrea Baynes" [abaynes at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Victorian Storms
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:15:27 +1100
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A cracker of a thunder storm over southern Victoria last night, did anyone
else witness it.
Leigh
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From: "Andrea Baynes" [abaynes at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Antartica
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:20:45 +1100
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Come on guys, it sounds great but its cold enough
in Victoria at the moment!!!!!!
038
From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Storm Chase
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 22:58:19 +1100
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I would rather see the money spent on extending the Gulf of Carpentaria
right down central Australia to lake Eyre, the soil removed can be used to
extend the Australian Mainland level with southern Tasmania. I think this
will improve severe storm potential. Inland NSW and Victoria could become
the southern hemisphere's Great Plains.
>
> But anyway, as the dry air came through, we decided to go to the Camden
> pub. We discussed plans of a new ASWA 2000 initiative to spend 2 billion
> dollars and build a land strip 200km out from the coastline so we couldn't
> care less what happened to prefrontal troughs!!!
>
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