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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Frost in Katoomba
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:13:09 +1000
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Laurier,
I think this very small change made a large difference in Wollongong this morning. Whereas it sounds like some areas had nights that were even colder than Thur morning, in Wollongong we were around 5 degrees warmer. It appeared that the bom had the minimum picked right when we were showing 11.7 at 9:30 last night, but on leaving home this morning at 5:30 it was still only 11.2. The only difference, an ever so slight SW breeze. I'm not sure if we got colder during the night, I'll need to check the minimum when I get home, but it certainly could have before the breeze moved things along.
Andrew Godsman
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From: Laurier Williams [mailto:wbc at ozemail.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2001 7:15 PM
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Frost in Katoomba
Paul,
You're right in that local topography is only part of the answer, though
other things being equal, it is the most significant one. Altitude is only
part of the answer too -- Charlotte Pass (in a frost hollow at 1755m)
recorded -9.4 this morning, but Cooma Airport (in a frost hollow at 931M)
recorded -7.0. On a purely adiabatic basis you'd expect a difference of
around 8 degrees.
I think that the greatest differences can occur over very small timescales
and areas due to upper winds mixing down through an inversion that can
sometimes be very thin, and by movement or development of cloud cover and
local advection of moist air. Last winter I rode a bike from Dalgety to
Cooma. The ground was white with frost and I'd estimate the temperature
around -7 at Dalgety, with a clear sky and no wind. About 10km north, I rode
under a deck of stratus which appeared to be drifting in veeeeeery slowly
from the east. The air felt noticeably warmer and more humid, and I noticed
that the ground was moist not frozen, so I'd suspect an air temp of around
+3 or better. About 10km farther on, I rode back under clear skies, and
froze again. It underlined to me just how variable and hard to forecast
minimum temperatures are, as a whole range of micro variations can produce
major temperature fluctuations.
The models certainly can't cope with this short wavelength variation; even
with the best topographic database in the world, they won't pick the other
variations over small areas and timescales that can lead to substantial
variation.
Laurier
> -----Original Message-----
Paul wrote (snipped):
> The comments on the differences between the local topographies around the
> Katoomba and Goulburn sites are valid, but do not provide the
> full answer, by
> a long way.
>
> This morning, as usual, the minimum temperature at our home site
> (-6.7) was
> about a degree lower than that at the Bureau's site up the road at the
> Taralga PO (-5). The difference in topography is the reason.
>
> Goulburn's minimum temperature is usually a couple of degrees higher than
> the Taralga PO site, simply because of the difference in
> altitude. The Taralga
> site is at 880 metres, the Goulburn site is around 670 metres, I
> think. The
> airport AWS a bit lower of course. It may be that the Goulburn AWS was in
> error for once, of course, because the other Goulburn site at -4
> is more in
> line with that at Taralga PO.
>
> If not, then those folks who have access to more detailed data
> might have a
> look at the differences in dew points etc and pressure gradients
> between say
> Goulburn and Charlottes Pass. There was only a degree difference
> between the
> minima. If the conditions were the same in both places I would
> have expected a
> -16 at Charlottes, simply because of the lapse rate with
> altitude. It seems to
> me that a really cold pool went past Goulburn this morning
>
> And, as I have said on another occasion, on each of the last
> several nights under this present high, the Bureau's estimate of
> the o'night
> minimum in Canberra, Cooma, Orange has been way too high. 4-6 degrees
> difference is a big number. Please guys, don't lecture me again on the
> differences in topography - the minima given by the models ought
> to reflect
> the values measured at the Bureau's sites in the given locality.
> This is not a
> criticism, I would merely like to know why it is that the models have
> difficulty coping with still air, low humidity conditions.
>
> Andrew of the same name, any comments?
> John Gaul, the kind of weather pattern you were bored with back in early
> May (blocking high) excites interest as an extreme weather event once we
> get into frost-producing temps. BTW - looks like it was the best
> South Island
> vintage on record!
>
> Paul Miskelly
> Cushendall Vineyard
> Hill St
> TARALGA NSW
>
> "Farmer and artist, drudge and dreamer,
> hedonist and masochist, accountant and alchemist
> - the wine-grower is all these things, and has been since the Flood".
> Hugh Johnson
>
> HISTORY CELEBRATES the battlefields whereon we meet our death, but scorns
> to speak of the ploughed fields whereby we thrive. It knows the
> names of the
> king's bastards but cannot tell us the
> origin of wheat. This is the way of human folly."
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From: "Dorrell's"
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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:05:37 +1000
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Hi Bussie
I've noticed the same occurring here on my farm around dawn, particularly in
winter, when out on the tractor.
As the sun rises from first light, the frost sets where prior there had been
none. It usually only lasts a short time here and is gone not long after the
sun actually rises above the surrounding tree line but remains where shaded
until the ambient air temp. rises enough to melt it!
Keith
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> Hi Bussie,
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by a 'sharp' drop before sunrise, as a sharp
drop
> would imply some type of front moved through (katabatic flow? - which can
be
> like clockwork). But more generally, the actual tempreture as related to
> heating rates is out of phase. By that i mean that the strongest heating
is
> at 12 local noon but the highest temp is about 3pm - generally. This is
the
> same for night, except were talking about cooling. Once the solar
radiaiton
> becomes negligble (around sunset), the strongest cooling occurs because
the
> surface temps are the greatest and the outgoing longwave radiaition (OLR)
is
> very large. Hence, the surface cools and by sunrise, the coldest
tempretures
> are reached. This would not be sharp drop though but rather an exponential
> decay. So this is probbaly not the answer to your observation. But it's
> worth noting delatyed highs/lows as they are related to maximum
> heating/cooling rates.
>
> As a side dish, this is not restricted to the surface - the reason for
> spring being the most explosive season is because the upper atmosphere is
> still cold from winter but the lower atmosphere is just starting to warm -
> it can take upto a couple months, depending on location, for the surface
> warming to propagate up in the atmosphere and stabalise the atmosphere
> (usually a nice summer). Conversly, Autumn is very calm because the upper
> atmpshere is warm but now the lower atmosphere is cooling - which will in
> turn propagate up and we start all over again.
>
> Cheers, Lyle
>
>
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From: "clyve herbert"
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Subject: aus-wx: Bovine Raingauge thief.
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:47:37 +1000
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Hi all.
Apart from being embarrassed by the trail of cows that follow me up the
Leopold hill when a photographic opportunity is in the wind, the big buggers
are now into pinching my raingauge off the rear fence post (my property
backs onto farm).Its odd though as the culprit is an elderly cow with warts
all over its mouth , (I always seem to attract this sought!) she simply
walks up to the raingauge, eyes it from one side, puts her head under the
fence and knocks it off the holding bracket,once on the ground she noses it
off in the direction of the open paddock with me in pursuit. I kid you not.
Apart from moving the gauge this is the best spot of open ground,any cow
experts out there?.Any way I thought I would share my experience seeing very
little weather is happening and can this be logged up as a cow or gauge
chase?....Things look better next week though with what seems to be a major
cyclonic phase moving into south-eastern Australia, with some reasonable
chance of snow later in the week across the Victorian High country and
Tasmania, might even get into the Blue Mountains,some good rain across
Victoria too..... Regards Clyve Herbert.........I think Jimmy is the cow
expert...
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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:10:31 +1000
From: Matt Smith
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Tim Marshall posted some images of the 4 tornadoes on www.stormtrack.org
Here is the 30 minute long wedge....
http://www.stormtrack.org/may29h.jpg
Matt Smith
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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:08:55 +1000
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Subject: aus-wx: Jimmy/David do it !!!
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The title doesnt sound good, but they did ! :)
I just spoke to Tim Marshall and he said Jimmy and David both saw
tornadoes north of Amarillo Texas on May 29 (the day a 3 supercells in a
line took off in NW Texas (the day the webcam link from an Amarillo cam
was posted). The storm north of Amarillo put down 4 tornadoes, the last
of which lasted 30 minutes.
Expect some great footage when they return !
The Dutch Storm Chase Team saw a tornado in a storm south of Amarillo on
the same day, and have posted some pictures of it here :
http://www.stormchasing.nl/20010529.html
Matt Smith
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From: "Simon Angell"
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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:27:51 +1000
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i have no explination to this but only a observation.
A few years ago i was travelling to sydney with a mate we were leaving at 6
in the morning. His car had a thermometer on it and when we left it was 10
degrees and still dark. around ten minutes later the first light of the sun
had spread across the sky and the temp had dropped to 5 degrees. i couldnt
explain then and i still can't now!! although i seen this happen again the
other night and i came up with a satisfactory explination BUT i forgotten
it. lol.....
Simon Angell
Canberra ACT
Current temp is a relativly warm -1.5.....
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From: "Lindsay Pearce"
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Subject: aus-wx: 1/ Bovine Raingauge thief 2/Next system
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:59:17 +1000
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G'day Clive,
Funny story :)
Yes, I'm watching the development of the next system. I'll get a little more
excited by next week, if the models agree a little more.
Cheers,
Lindsay Pearce
Blackheath, Central Tablelands of NSW
Email: violin at lisp.com.au
Blackheath Weather:
http://www.lisp.com.au/~violin/blackhth.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "clyve herbert"
To:
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:47 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Bovine Raingauge thief.
> Hi all.
> Apart from being embarrassed by the trail of cows that follow me up the
> Leopold hill when a photographic opportunity is in the wind, the big
buggers
> are now into pinching my raingauge off the rear fence post (my property
> backs onto farm).Its odd though as the culprit is an elderly cow with
warts
> all over its mouth , (I always seem to attract this sought!) she simply
> walks up to the raingauge, eyes it from one side, puts her head under the
> fence and knocks it off the holding bracket,once on the ground she noses
it
> off in the direction of the open paddock with me in pursuit. I kid you
not.
> Apart from moving the gauge this is the best spot of open ground,any cow
> experts out there?.Any way I thought I would share my experience seeing
very
> little weather is happening and can this be logged up as a cow or gauge
> chase?....Things look better next week though with what seems to be a
major
> cyclonic phase moving into south-eastern Australia, with some reasonable
> chance of snow later in the week across the Victorian High country and
> Tasmania, might even get into the Blue Mountains,some good rain across
> Victoria too..... Regards Clyve Herbert.........I think Jimmy is the cow
> expert...
>
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From: Blair Trewin
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Frost in Katoomba
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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:24:40 +1000 (EST)
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>
> On Thu, 31 May 2001, Tony Rance wrote:
> > Very thick frost in our deep valley in North Katoomba this morning & didn't
> > start thawing until around 9 am in the shade!
> > Why is it Katoomba's night temperatures are no where near as cold as
> > everywhere else & what about Goulburn's night temperatures????? -8???? >
> >
>
> Well folks ther have been an interesting set of replies to this one.
>
> The comments on the differences between the local topographies around the
> Katoomba and Goulburn sites are valid, but do not provide the full answer, by
> a long way.
>
> This morning, as usual, the minimum temperature at our home site (-6.7) was
> about a degree lower than that at the Bureau's site up the road at the
> Taralga PO (-5). The difference in topography is the reason.
>
> Goulburn's minimum temperature is usually a couple of degrees higher than
> the Taralga PO site, simply because of the difference in altitude. The Taralga
> site is at 880 metres, the Goulburn site is around 670 metres, I think. The
> airport AWS a bit lower of course. It may be that the Goulburn AWS was in
> error for once, of course, because the other Goulburn site at -4 is more in
> line with that at Taralga PO.
>
> If not, then those folks who have access to more detailed data might have a
> look at the differences in dew points etc and pressure gradients between say
> Goulburn and Charlottes Pass. There was only a degree difference between the
> minima. If the conditions were the same in both places I would have expected a
> -16 at Charlottes, simply because of the lapse rate with altitude. It seems to
> me that a really cold pool went past Goulburn this morning
>
> And, as I have said on another occasion, on each of the last
> several nights under this present high, the Bureau's estimate of the o'night
> minimum in Canberra, Cooma, Orange has been way too high. 4-6 degrees
> difference is a big number. Please guys, don't lecture me again on the
> differences in topography - the minima given by the models ought to reflect
> the values measured at the Bureau's sites in the given locality. This is not a
> criticism, I would merely like to know why it is that the models have
> difficulty coping with still air, low humidity conditions.
We're looking at differences in scale here.
On scales of metres to a few kilometres, topography is critical, as
is local ground surface (for example, bitumen nearby favours high
minima, bare sand low minima).
On larger scales (kilometres and tens of kilometres) other factors
become more important - such as cloud, wind, moisture levels and
the overall temperature in the air mass. This would go some way to
explaining the Charlottes Pass minimum above - I imagine there was
a little more wind or cloud than further north.
Small fluctuations in wind, which can explain differences in minimum
temperature BETWEEN sites, can also cause marked fluctuations at a
site, as any sort of wind will tend to break up the sharp near-ground
inversion that is characteristic of clear, calm nights (and which
is particularly pronounced over snow). It's not unknown for the
temperature at a site like Canberra to fluctuate 3-4 degrees from one
hour to the next during the night, as winds develop and then drop away
again (even 10 km/h can do this).
As for the forecasts, the models don't generate minimum temperatures
directly - they're based on a forecaster's interpretation of the
models. I'd noticed the recent overforecasting of the Canberra
minima too - and that the minima there in recent weeks have been,
in general, rather lower than what I would have expected myself for
the prevailing meteorological situation. I've seen this happen before
in prolonged dry periods (Canberra has only had 13mm in the last two
months), and expect that it is related to a lack of soil moisture and
consequent reduced moisture in the near-surface layer. Presumably
this hasn't fed into the forecasting process yet - although the
errors have been smaller in the last couple of nights.
I can't speak for Cooma and Orange, partly because I haven't been
following their forecasts as closely, and partly because I don't
know which site the forecasts are verified from (both centres have
a town and airport site, with significant systematic differences
between them).
Blair
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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:26:33 +1000
From: Tony Rance
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Thank you to all who replied to my frost question. I now understand the
cold air pooling that occurs in valleys & why I will see very heavy
frost in the valley below my house, but Katoomba's minimum temperature
for that night would be reported as 3 degrees!
I have created a web site with Katoomba's daily maximum & minimum
temperatures, rainfall & snow days for the year 2000 & 2001 so far.
There is also a page on record snow falls in the Blue Mountains that
Lindsay from Blackheath gave me last year. Please check out the web site
for me at:
http://www.geocities.com/katoombaweather/index.html
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From: "Bussie"
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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:22:44 +1000
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Sorry. I can't help laughing........
Is it one or two cows Clyve? If it's two then try this (Grin)
www.tucows.com
Had to put that in...........
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
----- Original Message -----
From: "clyve herbert"
To:
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:47 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Bovine Raingauge thief.
> Hi all.
> Apart from being embarrassed by the trail of cows that follow me up the
> Leopold hill when a photographic opportunity is in the wind, the big
buggers
> are now into pinching my raingauge off the rear fence post (my property
> backs onto farm).Its odd though as the culprit is an elderly cow with
warts
> all over its mouth , (I always seem to attract this sought!) she simply
> walks up to the raingauge, eyes it from one side, puts her head under the
> fence and knocks it off the holding bracket,once on the ground she noses
it
> off in the direction of the open paddock with me in pursuit. I kid you
not.
> Apart from moving the gauge this is the best spot of open ground,any cow
> experts out there?.Any way I thought I would share my experience seeing
very
> little weather is happening and can this be logged up as a cow or gauge
> chase?....Things look better next week though with what seems to be a
major
> cyclonic phase moving into south-eastern Australia, with some reasonable
> chance of snow later in the week across the Victorian High country and
> Tasmania, might even get into the Blue Mountains,some good rain across
> Victoria too..... Regards Clyve Herbert.........I think Jimmy is the cow
> expert...
>
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From: "Keith Barnett"
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bovine Raingauge thief.
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:53:40 +1000
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You would need to take care that the rainfall is not being augmented by
extra-ordinary bovine precipitation.
As a nong-song goes, 'I have bought me a wife, I have married a cow'..sorry
that should be the other way around...
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From: Bussie
To:
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bovine Raingauge thief.
> Sorry. I can't help laughing........
> Is it one or two cows Clyve? If it's two then try this (Grin)
> www.tucows.com
> Had to put that in...........
> Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "clyve herbert"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:47 AM
> Subject: aus-wx: Bovine Raingauge thief.
>
>
> > Hi all.
> > Apart from being embarrassed by the trail of cows that follow me up the
> > Leopold hill when a photographic opportunity is in the wind, the big
> buggers
> > are now into pinching my raingauge off the rear fence post (my property
> > backs onto farm).Its odd though as the culprit is an elderly cow with
> warts
> > all over its mouth , (I always seem to attract this sought!) she simply
> > walks up to the raingauge, eyes it from one side, puts her head under
the
> > fence and knocks it off the holding bracket,once on the ground she
noses
> it
> > off in the direction of the open paddock with me in pursuit. I kid you
> not.
> > Apart from moving the gauge this is the best spot of open ground,any cow
> > experts out there?.Any way I thought I would share my experience seeing
> very
> > little weather is happening and can this be logged up as a cow or gauge
> > chase?....Things look better next week though with what seems to be a
> major
> > cyclonic phase moving into south-eastern Australia, with some
reasonable
> > chance of snow later in the week across the Victorian High country and
> > Tasmania, might even get into the Blue Mountains,some good rain across
> > Victoria too..... Regards Clyve Herbert.........I think Jimmy is the cow
> > expert...
> >
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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:18:36 +1000
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Very localised event in Sydney early this morningf with 97 mm at Little
Bay while less than 5 kms to the North there was only 3 mm The rain last
a while with 32 mm between 5 and 6 am, another 36 mm between 6 & 7 and
21 mm between 7 & 8 before easing off.
17 mm in 15 minutes fell in the royal Nat Park to the south in 15
minutes around 1.30 pm as well..... but virtually nothing anywhere else
in the state.
A look at the surface chart shows a high virtually on top of Sydney but
as we know, that's only part of the story.
Movement of upper high cloud over the continent continues. All the stuff
over the west 36 hours ago now over NSW then a big gap to another clump
around Broome and there's another mass about 750 kms WSW of Christmas
Island - one of these may eventually coincide with a front moving across
the SE stes to give the long needed rain in the inland.
don white
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hey people
I have just purchased an SLR and I am now looking for a scanner to go
with it.
I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good one to buy. I dont
want to spend too much, no more than $400.
Should I go for one with one of those film scanner attachments, or will
i get the results i'm after with just a normal flatbed??
My main purpose is to use the images on the web, so i'm guessing a
super resolution is not a big concern, am i right??
feed back would be great
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hey nick,
i have a standard flatbed, model canoscan fb 620p.
i have done my entire album with this thing. its perfect for just scanning
them for the web. i don't know what a film scanner attachment is:(
it cost somewhere around $200. scanners these days would be even cheaper.
if you spend 400, you would have a scanner with numerous other functions
that i can't think of.
this thing just plugs into the printer port, then ya printer connects to
the back of the scanner. just means if ya want to print you have to have
your scanner turned on.
all scanners can do different resolutions, zoom in etc
a flatbed is fine
At 09:47 AM 6/2/01 +1000, you wrote:
>hey people
>
>I have just purchased an SLR and I am now looking for a scanner to go
>with it.
>
>I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good one to buy. I dont
>want to spend too much, no more than $400.
>
>Should I go for one with one of those film scanner attachments, or will
>i get the results i'm after with just a normal flatbed??
>
>My main purpose is to use the images on the web, so i'm guessing a
>super resolution is not a big concern, am i right??
>
>feed back would be great
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>Nick Sykes
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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 08:25:11 +0800
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They call it "One country, Two systems" and there is still an
international border just up the road from here which you need passports
to cross and anything, including cars, bikes, petrol, whatever that
crosses has to be imported/exported from one region to the other.
We have the red flag with the yellow stars replacing the Union Jack and
our post boxes changed from red ones with "EIIR" to green ones
with "Hongkong Post" (which you can't find) but not much else has changed.
Phil
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> Hi Phil,
>
> Funny, I thought HK was China now??
>
> John
>
> Here in HK we have been paying HK$10.70 per litre for unleaded for
> several years.
> Not sure of the exchange rate today but I think that's still over or
> around AUD$2.00 per litre.
> People fit big tanks and drive to China (30Km from my home) to fill up
> at
> half price, but the import/export hassles on cars are just not worth
> it.
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From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon)
Date: 31 May 01 21:42:33 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: two questions
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Hello Bussie!
31 May 01 18:50, you wrote to weather list:
B> other day, and I stumbled upon a Trojan virus that my antivirus
B> didn't detect. It's called "SULFNBK", and it goes by a lot of
WARNING!!!
THIS IS A HOAX!!! SULFNBK.EXE will exist on your system (unless you're running
Linux! :) ). It is a standard part of Windows, and not a virus or trojan in
any way.
PLEASE IGNORE THESE WARNINGS!
go to http://vil.macafee.com (I think that's the url, but you can get to the
McAfee virus info library via www.nai.com), or Norton's site (via
www.symantec.com).
Sorry for the off topic post, but this hoax is out of control, had 3 at work
today, plus an officual hoax announcement from McAfee Dispatch (well worth
subscribing to! :) ).
Tony, VK3JED
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From: "Paul Yole"
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Subject: aus-wx: Forecasting School...
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:09:19 +1000
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Hey all,
Just doing some surfing and found this link off the Storm Track/SCH website
( http://www.stormtrack.org )
http://www.forecastschool.com/
Wonder if they would hold a class pre TDUO to get our skills ready.
PaulY
Paul Yole
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Hi Everyone,
Ah, it's a little late but here's my report from the 17th of jan. It's my
first one so comments/nice criticism would be welcomed. Enjoy
http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2001/docs/200101-07.htm
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Hi all in weather list land, and welcome to winter
I was just wandering how badly people on this list find SDS to be,
as no-one in the 'normal society' :) understands. Around this time of late
autumn/late winter, is always a big struggle for me. I absolutely can't
stand it. It feels kind of like being claustrophobic in a lift, only stuck
in winter, no way (other than a ticket to Oklahoma, lucky bastards!), to
escape. Reading posts to this list and the aussie storm webpages I've found
to be a good help. I was watching the pretty sunset tonight going, yeah
it's nice but phttt its 5pm and wheres the cumulonimbus on the ranges?.
There are all these little things that trigger feelings, such as the smell
of fireplaces, treading on heaps of duck shit going for a run, and all those
posts from Lindsay (only joking Lindsay, i like your posts!), that are
associated with winter. I must say apart from ECL's and extremely cold
outbreaks with an abundance of snow, i really hate winter. So 3 months to
go till spring, and with the thread of best storm locations being a good
topic starter i though i'd try and start another one to get through winter,
thus:
"Best location to see an oncoming supercell",
My unofficial top 5!
5: Mt Lofty overlooking Adelaide, with a sw'ly change aproaching. I've been
up there 3 times but always in fine weather and with the whole city just
down 'there' its a great spot
4: Standing on top of Ayers Rock. I was lucky enough to see an isolated
storm from up there in '96 and it was an awesome sight, although i dont know
of the chances of a supercell in that location.
3: The plains of Africa, with Mt Kilamanjaro in the background. O.K i'm a
dreamer but i have thoughts of storms like this running through my head all
the time !
2: In Oklahoma, the sun at your back, bright yellow corn feilds to your
front, with a massive black tornadic system encroaching, with crisp, bright
white outlines up high, boiling furiously, and lowerings+rotation galore.
1: The Spot, Glenorie. Am i being biased? Of course not!, absolutely the
best place in the world to watch a storm from. :)
Happy winter everyone, can't wait till spring!!,, Rune
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Only problem with this site is if you get hit from the Western face, it can
get very cold, I have been inside (yes inside) a thunderstorm while it
passed overhead. Although this may sound great, it's not that good when
there is lightning all around you and you don't know where it's going to
hit. From a distance of say 20km a storm would look absolutely awesome, but
you may find you won't be able to see the base of it, unless it's a fairly
high based storm. Give it a go during one of our very rare thunderstorms
one day, it gives you a new perspective to the storms. The city does get
quite hazy down there too when there are storms about, so not good for
getting pics of the city and storms together.
regards
Andrew
At 07:30 PM 6/2/01 +1000, you wrote:
>5: Mt Lofty overlooking Adelaide, with a sw'ly change aproaching. I've
>been up there 3 times but always in fine weather and with the whole city
>just down 'there' its a great spot
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Subject: aus-wx: New virus warning!!!
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After my stuff up "hoax virus" I thought this may be appropriate. Plus there
isn't too much happening weather wise. That I know of anyway :-))
Subject: New virus warning
If you receive an e-mail with a subject line of "Badtimes," delete it
immediately WITHOUT reading it. This is the most dangerous E-mail virus
yet!!!!!!
* It will re-write your hard drive. Not only that, but it will scramble any
disks that are even close to your computer.
* It will recalibrate your refrigerator's coolness setting so all your ice
cream melts and your milk curdles.
* It will demagnetise the strips on all your credit cards, reprogram your
ATM access code, screw up the tracking on your VCR and use subspace field
harmonics to scratch any CDs you try to play.
* It will give your ex-boy/girlfriend (ex-husband/wife) your new phone
number.
* It will mix antifreeze into your fish tank.
* It will drink all your beer and leave its dirty socks on the coffee table
when there's company coming over.
* It will hide your car keys when you are late for work and interfere with
your car radio so that you hear only static while stuck in traffic.
* Badtimes will give you nightmares about circus midgets.
* It will replace your shampoo with Nair and your Nair with Rogaine, all
while dating your current boy/girlfriend (husband/wife) behind your back and
billing their hotel rendezvous to your Visa card.
* It will seduce your grandmother. It does not matter if she is dead, such
is the power of Badtimes. It reaches out beyond the grave to sully those
things we hold most dear.
* Badtimes will give you Dutch Elm disease. It will leave the toilet seat
up and leave the hairdryer plugged in dangerously close to a full bathtub.
* It will not only remove the forbidden tags from your mattresses and
pillows, it will refill your skim milk with whole. It is insidious and
subtle. It is dangerous and terrifying to behold.
* It is also a rather interesting shade of mauve.
These are just a few signs.
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:39:17 +1000
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Hi Rune & all,
The autumn stratocu season (normally lasting between 3 days & 6 weeks)
in Melbourne is my SDS season & this usually ends the day of the first
cold outbreak on or after 15th May. This year's has been very short as
we have had a lot of AcCas & Cj turkeys about & the most wonderful
pyrocumulus (I must get the film developed), making for 'spring' skies
rather than autumn skies. Today we had middle level showers from
glaciated altostratus/altocumulus . . . . nothing SDS'ish about that!!
I spend a lot of my time between storm seasons (ie: late autumn /
winter) reading & reading & reading so that I'm 'more ready' for the
next season & catching up on all of the webpages, meeting minutes etc
etc that I wanted to do during storm season & didn't have time for . . .
. . have also started setting the car up for the next season (am I
starting too early???) - PS: MT - buy a CB!!
> "Best location to see an oncoming supercell",
> My unofficial top 5!
5. Mt Dandenong (looking NW - S)
4. West of Werribee on the flat country just west of Melbourne (360 deg
views)
3. Mt Ridley (in far nothern suburbs of Melbourne looking W - S - E)
2. Yarrawonga - flattish country - 360 degree views & a decent road
network
1. One Tree Hill - Ararat in the west of Victoria (360 deg views)
Jane
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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 22:39:23 +1000
From: Matt Smith
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Hi Rune
Yeah SDS is hitting hard... Im keeping myself busy by looking at the US setup
every day. (Yes, before I look at the current oz situation ! :), reading chase
accounts, looking at photos of supercells in the states you saw the day before
on incredible close up visible satellite imagery that updates every 5 minutes,
and wondering what they looked like from ground level...then the SDS really sets
in.... If we *ever* get sat pics like that here either freely available or to
purchase from the BoM , it will be fantastic but I wont hold my breath waiting.
I think Australia needs to send up its own satellite :)
Top 6 - 6) The lookout at Bowral (shelter) 5) The lookout at Goulburn (shelter)
4) The lookout at Quirindi (shelter) 3) Rooty Hill (no shelter) 2) The lookout
at Gulgong (no shelter) 1) The open plains 100-200km or so north and south of
Moree.
Matt Smith
http://www.sydneystormchasers.com
Rune Peitersen wrote:
> Hi all in weather list land, and welcome to winter
> I was just wandering how badly people on this list find SDS to be,
> as no-one in the 'normal society' :) understands. Around this time of late
> autumn/late winter, is always a big struggle for me. I absolutely can't
> stand it. It feels kind of like being claustrophobic in a lift, only stuck
> in winter, no way (other than a ticket to Oklahoma, lucky bastards!), to
> escape. Reading posts to this list and the aussie storm webpages I've found
> to be a good help. I was watching the pretty sunset tonight going, yeah
> it's nice but phttt its 5pm and wheres the cumulonimbus on the ranges?.
> There are all these little things that trigger feelings, such as the smell
> of fireplaces, treading on heaps of duck shit going for a run, and all those
> posts from Lindsay (only joking Lindsay, i like your posts!), that are
> associated with winter. I must say apart from ECL's and extremely cold
> outbreaks with an abundance of snow, i really hate winter. So 3 months to
> go till spring, and with the thread of best storm locations being a good
> topic starter i though i'd try and start another one to get through winter,
> thus:
> "Best location to see an oncoming supercell",
> My unofficial top 5!
> 5: Mt Lofty overlooking Adelaide, with a sw'ly change aproaching. I've been
> up there 3 times but always in fine weather and with the whole city just
> down 'there' its a great spot
>
> 4: Standing on top of Ayers Rock. I was lucky enough to see an isolated
> storm from up there in '96 and it was an awesome sight, although i dont know
> of the chances of a supercell in that location.
>
> 3: The plains of Africa, with Mt Kilamanjaro in the background. O.K i'm a
> dreamer but i have thoughts of storms like this running through my head all
> the time !
>
> 2: In Oklahoma, the sun at your back, bright yellow corn feilds to your
> front, with a massive black tornadic system encroaching, with crisp, bright
> white outlines up high, boiling furiously, and lowerings+rotation galore.
>
> 1: The Spot, Glenorie. Am i being biased? Of course not!, absolutely the
> best place in the world to watch a storm from. :)
>
> Happy winter everyone, can't wait till spring!!,, Rune
>
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From: "Peter Matters"
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 07:49:34 +1000
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Hi all,
Peter Matters here. I also had this file which Norton AV did not pick
up. Many thx Bussie:-)
Cheers
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Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2001 18:51
To: weather list
Subject: aus-wx: two questions
I have two questions. One isn't weather related but may help out some what.
I got sent the following and wonder if it's true or not.
Guess what? I was going through all my Windows files the
other day, and I stumbled upon a Trojan virus that my antivirus
didn't detect. It's called "SULFNBK", and it goes by a lot of
different names, but it's a very destructive "macro-virus" that
will damage or delete a lot of Windows files to the point that
you will have to reinstall Windows.
There is a much easier way to check your system to see if you
picked it up somewhere than the way I found it.
Do this:
1. Click the "Start" button.
2. Click on "Find"
3. Type in: sulfnbk
4. Where it says "Look In", select: C:\WINDOWS
5. Click "Find Now"
6. If it's there, delete it to the "Recycle Bin"
7. Now, delete it from the "Recycle Bin"
8. Restart your computer.
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Secondly. This may be an obvious one but why does the temp always drop
sharply just about sunrise? I thought that the approaching sun would make
the temp rise and not fall. I start work at sunrise and it always feels
colder than well before sunrise.
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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From: "Peter Matters"
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: SDS / top 5 lookouts
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 07:54:54 +1000
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Hi all,
Mt Wombat 10 klms east of Euroa has 360 deg views and is the highest
point for miles. In fact it has an NRE fire spotting hut as well as
communication twrs.
Cheers Peter
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Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2001 22:39
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Hi Rune & all,
The autumn stratocu season (normally lasting between 3 days & 6 weeks)
in Melbourne is my SDS season & this usually ends the day of the first
cold outbreak on or after 15th May. This year's has been very short as
we have had a lot of AcCas & Cj turkeys about & the most wonderful
pyrocumulus (I must get the film developed), making for 'spring' skies
rather than autumn skies. Today we had middle level showers from
glaciated altostratus/altocumulus . . . . nothing SDS'ish about that!!
I spend a lot of my time between storm seasons (ie: late autumn /
winter) reading & reading & reading so that I'm 'more ready' for the
next season & catching up on all of the webpages, meeting minutes etc
etc that I wanted to do during storm season & didn't have time for . . .
. . have also started setting the car up for the next season (am I
starting too early???) - PS: MT - buy a CB!!
> "Best location to see an oncoming supercell",
> My unofficial top 5!
5. Mt Dandenong (looking NW - S)
4. West of Werribee on the flat country just west of Melbourne (360 deg
views)
3. Mt Ridley (in far nothern suburbs of Melbourne looking W - S - E)
2. Yarrawonga - flattish country - 360 degree views & a decent road
network
1. One Tree Hill - Ararat in the west of Victoria (360 deg views)
Jane
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From: "Lindsay Pearce"
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 09:07:26 +1000
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G'day Rune,
I can take a joke :) I can imagine how it must bore some of you guys
sh..less, this winter thing. Not so exciting for me at the moment either, as
this developing system looks like dying and giving mostly rain. Then again,
it will be great for the farmers.
Lindsay Pearce
Blackheath, Central Tablelands of NSW
Email: violin at lisp.com.au
Blackheath Weather:
http://www.lisp.com.au/~violin/blackhth.htm
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Subject: aus-wx: SDS
SNIP...
> to be a good help. I was watching the pretty sunset tonight going, yeah
> it's nice but phttt its 5pm and wheres the cumulonimbus on the ranges?.
> There are all these little things that trigger feelings, such as the smell
> of fireplaces, treading on heaps of duck shit going for a run, and all
those
> posts from Lindsay (only joking Lindsay, i like your posts!), that are
> associated with winter. I must say apart from ECL's and extremely cold
> outbreaks with an abundance of snow, i really hate winter. So 3 months to
> go till spring, and with the thread of best storm locations being a good
> topic starter i though i'd try and start another one to get through
winter,
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Nowra Hill lookout. 30+ K in any direction, slightly less to the NNE, little bit longer elsewhere. Jervis Bay and ocean, Shoalhaven River valley, Mt Coolangatta & Cambewarra, Pidgeonhouse Mountain, HMAS Albatross, heaps more. Only problem is, when your there, the storms aint.
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From: simon at fearby.com
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Subject: SULFNBK.EXE Warning: Re: aus-wx: two questions
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:03:47 +1000
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Here is Symantec's notes on the SULFNBK.EXE hoax
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: two questions
> Hi all,
> Peter Matters here. I also had this file which Norton AV did not
pick
> up. Many thx Bussie:-)
> Cheers
>
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> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Bussie
> Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2001 18:51
> To: weather list
> Subject: aus-wx: two questions
>
>
> I have two questions. One isn't weather related but may help out some
what.
> I got sent the following and wonder if it's true or not.
> Guess what? I was going through all my Windows files the
> other day, and I stumbled upon a Trojan virus that my antivirus
> didn't detect. It's called "SULFNBK", and it goes by a lot of
> different names, but it's a very destructive "macro-virus" that
> will damage or delete a lot of Windows files to the point that
> you will have to reinstall Windows.
>
> There is a much easier way to check your system to see if you
> picked it up somewhere than the way I found it.
>
> Do this:
>
> 1. Click the "Start" button.
>
> 2. Click on "Find"
>
> 3. Type in: sulfnbk
>
> 4. Where it says "Look In", select: C:\WINDOWS
>
> 5. Click "Find Now"
>
> 6. If it's there, delete it to the "Recycle Bin"
>
> 7. Now, delete it from the "Recycle Bin"
>
> 8. Restart your computer.
> --------------------
> Secondly. This may be an obvious one but why does the temp always drop
> sharply just about sunrise? I thought that the approaching sun would make
> the temp rise and not fall. I start work at sunrise and it always feels
> colder than well before sunrise.
> Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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Hi all
Prepare yourself for winter by going to my new SA snow page at:
http://www.cobweb.com.au/~paisley2/SnowWX.html
The lead story is a look at reports from 'The Advertiser' regarding the 2
[count em, 2] cold outbreaks of July 1951. The second one, on the 20-21st
of July was truly extraordinary in many ways. Anyway, there are MSL maps
to drool over and questions posed for commentary.
Maybe this will get the ball rolling with reports from the east regarding
this event.
Enjoy, and I'll appreciate your feedback.....
Phil
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Well I mightn't know much about the weather, but I do know about these 2
products. Not that I have used them both personally. Not to worry, I don't
often get a chance to contribute something useful to the list ..
Nair is a hair removal cream, whereas Rogaine is a cream that is used to
promote hair growth. And I'm not even a yank .. just a has been pharmacy
worker who hasn't been dispensed with yet.
Cheers,
Barbara
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: New virus warning!!!
> Dunno Les. Never heard of either "Nair" or "Rogaine" here in Hong Kong.
> I presume they are brand names of something in the US so Yanks on the
> list might be able to help.
>
> Phil
> <><
> International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk
> Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Les Crossan"
> To:
> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:31:56 +0100
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: New virus warning!!!
>
> > Whats Nair and Rogaine????
> >
> > Les
> > Les Crossan & Christine Challen,
> > UK Storm Chasers,
> > Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 54-59.5N 01-30W
> > www.uksevereweather.org.uk
> >
> > Wallsend StormCam:
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From: "clyve herbert"
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:30:56 +1000
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Hi everybody.
A moderate strength cold pool is advancing north-eastward from well south of
WA,also some reasonable baroclinic areas over much of the western half of
Australia. Look for vorticity around the western Aus Bight over the next 12
to 24 hours.
regards Clyve Herbert.
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Hi phil,
Great article on the snow falls, although not a great fan of snow it's good
to see you are keeping busy while the weather isn't :) I have added the
link of your snow page to the article section on the SAStorms site.
By the way Phil, do you have the name of the guy who took the photograph of
the Appila twister? I have looked high and low on my hard drive and cannot
find the information.
Something else you may be interested in, I have requested information from
the bureau of Met about the 22nd of Jan 1991 storms and also 8th of Dec,
Snowtown supercell in 1999. I have also requested to get a copy of a
tornado photograph that was taken on the 5th of May, THIS YEAR from south
of Mt Gambier. Hopefully this information will fill the articles page a
little more.
regards
Andrew
At 10:56 AM 6/3/01 +0930, you wrote:
>Hi all
>
>Prepare yourself for winter by going to my new SA snow page at:
>
>http://www.cobweb.com.au/~paisley2/SnowWX.html
>
>The lead story is a look at reports from 'The Advertiser' regarding the 2
>[count em, 2] cold outbreaks of July 1951. The second one, on the 20-21st
>of July was truly extraordinary in many ways. Anyway, there are MSL maps
>to drool over and questions posed for commentary.
>
>Maybe this will get the ball rolling with reports from the east regarding
>this event.
>
>Enjoy, and I'll appreciate your feedback.....
>
>Phil
>
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 14:58:01 +1000
From: Matt Smith
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The next NSW ASWA meeting will be hold on Saturday June 16 2001.
Venue: The Weather Company, 7 West St North Sydney.
Time: 7pm
Parking: Free in the streets around TWC building.
Press the Weather21 buzzer to be let in.
On the Agenda :
- Membership cards
- Storm News
- AGM
- ASWA Stickers
- ASWA Hats
*IMPORTANT* Membership is now due for a few people. Those of
you who need to pay, please bring your membership
money for this year.
Feature Presentation.
Although very quiet on the weather front in Australia , Jimmy Deguara
and David Croan have been roaming the Great Plains
of America, storm chasing for the past month, and Jimmy (possibly David
as well) will be presenting video and analysis of
there their recent trip. We know they managed to catch tornadoes from
supercells in NW Texas on May 29, BUT they seem
to have been extremely secretive about their experiences over there,
not letting anyone know what has been happening.
Expect some incredible thunderstorm footage and photographs of tornadoes,
storm structure, hail smashing the front
windscreen (ok maybe not this one but who know's!) Did Jimmy manage
to see his aim of giant hailstones ? Did they come
across large enough hail drifts that David was able to build a "Jimmy
Hailman" ? We will find out on the night!!!
Please bring a couple of dollars for Pizza as well. This will certainly
be one of the highlights of the year.
Matthew Smith and Matthew Pearce
NSW State Representatives of ASWA.
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Great site Phil obviously quite a bit of effort there. Living in the south
eastern suburbs I wouldn't mind some snow:) Very interesting system
developing this week with some significant falls of rain possible. Finally
starting to see moisture being pumped in from the NW hopefully some more NW
cloudbands this year than last year. Also mentioned on the weather zone
list was the fact that a period of cradling highs, cradling lows in the
Bight and southeastern Australia hasn't been seen for quite some time at
this time of year. Hopefully this could see some very decent falls
developing this winter with another possible similar system developing over
next weekend or early next week, a bit far off yet I know. Wouldn't mind
seeing another 1992 year in terms of rain:)
>From: Andrew Wall
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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: The great 1951 cold outbreak in SA
>Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 13:23:09 +0930
>
>
>Hi phil,
>
>Great article on the snow falls, although not a great fan of snow it's good
>to see you are keeping busy while the weather isn't :) I have added the
>link of your snow page to the article section on the SAStorms site.
>
>By the way Phil, do you have the name of the guy who took the photograph of
>the Appila twister? I have looked high and low on my hard drive and cannot
>find the information.
>
>Something else you may be interested in, I have requested information from
>the bureau of Met about the 22nd of Jan 1991 storms and also 8th of Dec,
>Snowtown supercell in 1999. I have also requested to get a copy of a
>tornado photograph that was taken on the 5th of May, THIS YEAR from south
>of Mt Gambier. Hopefully this information will fill the articles page a
>little more.
>
>regards
>
>Andrew
>
>
>At 10:56 AM 6/3/01 +0930, you wrote:
>>Hi all
>>
>>Prepare yourself for winter by going to my new SA snow page at:
>>
>>http://www.cobweb.com.au/~paisley2/SnowWX.html
>>
>>The lead story is a look at reports from 'The Advertiser' regarding the 2
>>[count em, 2] cold outbreaks of July 1951. The second one, on the 20-21st
>>of July was truly extraordinary in many ways. Anyway, there are MSL maps
>>to drool over and questions posed for commentary.
>>
>>Maybe this will get the ball rolling with reports from the east regarding
>>this event.
>>
>>Enjoy, and I'll appreciate your feedback.....
>>
>>Phil
>>
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From: "The Weather Co."
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Subject: aus-wx: US Storm Chase Update...
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:50:12 +1000
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Hi everyone,
I have received word that our intrepid storm chasers have
captured a couple of tornadoes in recent days while on the Oklahoma plains
(I only hope they can bring them home!). No doubt we will hear more in days
to come..
Paul G.
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 18:13:24 +1000
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Hi every1,
I agree with Matt Smith...the only way I cope with winter (except for
tornadoes in northern Victoria - but nowhere near here) is to virtual
chase....
Log on early...check the US radar summary...then check the visible
satpix...then find a city close by and get on a weathercam!!!
Lotsa fun if you've got the time...which I don't anymore...:((
Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.
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From: "Bussie"
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 18:24:08 +1000
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Sorry I didn't edit it. I don't know what they are anyway, but the overall
thing was amusing I thought :-)
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: New virus warning!!!
> Thanks, Phil.
>
> Les Lemon (ASWA - US) have you got any idea???
>
> SDS setting in here too (:
>
> Les
>
> Les Crossan & Christine Challen,
> UK Storm Chasers,
> Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 54-59.5N 01-30W
> www.uksevereweather.org.uk
>
> Wallsend StormCam: www.cc0020209.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wallsendstormcam.htm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Smith"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 12:45 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: New virus warning!!!
>
>
> > Dunno Les. Never heard of either "Nair" or "Rogaine"
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The Canon d660u has a 35mm film attachment. I think I paid $280. last
christmas for it . Its not pro quality but ok.I think the guy at the place
where I bought it did show me so better ones for around $400.
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I think a scanner's most important feature/asset is its colour tolerence.
Most scanners have the same resolution, and some are sharper than others,
but it comes down to how well they handle colour, and this affects how well
they handle dark photos, light photos and over exposed shots.
Most scanners that are $200 are pretty good. $400 will buy you a great
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heart).
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> The Canon d660u has a 35mm film attachment. I think I paid $280. last
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> where I bought it did show me so better ones for around $400.
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Hey
Thanks for the advice
I have been doing some research and at this stage I am thinking of
getting the Epson Perfection 640U, it's about $250. it has had some
great reviews on the net.
has anyone had experience with this scanner?
Nick
.................
> I think a scanner's most important featurMost scanners have the
> same resolution, and some are sharper than others,
> but it comes down to how well they handle colour, and this affects
> how well
> they handle dark photos, light photos and over exposed shots.
>
> Most scanners that are $200 are pretty good. $400 will buy you a great
> scanner. You might be able to afford a negative tray too (for the
> purist at
> heart).
>
> dann
>
...................
>
> > The Canon d660u has a 35mm film attachment. I think I paid $280.
> last> christmas for it . Its not pro quality but ok.I think the
> guy at the place
> > where I bought it did show me so better ones for around $400.
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Hi all,
Jimmy had even sworn his mother to secrecy but it just made me more
suspicious when she said that Jimmy hadn't even mentioned anything about
storms when he called!! Jimmy not mention the weather/storms???
All who can make it should be at the Sydney meeting on 16th June when all
will be revealed... that is the footage, photos, etc... not Jimmy and David!
Geoff Thurtell
At 05:50 PM 3/06/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi everyone,
> I have received word that our intrepid storm chasers have
>captured a couple of tornadoes in recent days while on the Oklahoma plains
>(I only hope they can bring them home!). No doubt we will hear more in days
>to come..
>Paul G.
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Great report.
I remember the 1951 cold outbreak very well indeed.
I was a kid living in Terang, Victoria.
The night before the great snowfall, my mother read me a book about
the "Little Match Girl" who died in the snow, and we discussed how Norway
was a land of ice and snow.
When it was time to say my prayers, I prayed that God would send us
enough snow that Dad could build a snowman before he went to work in the
morning. My Mum got awfully flustered about the prayer trying to shut me
up because "it only snows in Norway, not here in Australia".
Next morning, the whole town was covered in inches of snow and Dad made
us a snowman before he went to work.
According to the Terang Express, this was the first time since white
settlement that snow had ever been recorded there, and as far as I know
it has never been recorded again since.
So now the question arises: did the prayer of a little boy who didn't
know any better cause the great cold outbreak of 1951?
Phil
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:56:43 +0930
Subject: Re: aus-wx: The great 1951 cold outbreak in SA
> Hi all
>
> Prepare yourself for winter by going to my new SA snow page at:
>
> http://www.cobweb.com.au/~paisley2/SnowWX.html
>
> The lead story is a look at reports from 'The Advertiser' regarding the
> 2
> [count em, 2] cold outbreaks of July 1951. The second one, on the
> 20-21st
> of July was truly extraordinary in many ways. Anyway, there are MSL
> maps
> to drool over and questions posed for commentary.
>
> Maybe this will get the ball rolling with reports from the east
> regarding
> this event.
>
> Enjoy, and I'll appreciate your feedback.....
>
> Phil
>
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Tony,
I spend quite a bit of time at Goulburn Airport. As others have
mentioned it is a very open, flat spot but also the AWS is right at the
bottom of a gradual sort of hole, so ofcourse the cold air pools there.
The place is also very well known for regular and long-lasting fog -
quite ironic for an airport.
You'll notice that Gouldburn AWS (Airport) temps constrast alot with
Goulburn (PO I think) temps despite the fact that as the 'cessna' flies
they're about 2 miles apart.
Goulburn AWS is always the first station to go negative of a night in
fine weather condidtions.
Andrew.
Tony Rance wrote:
>
> Very thick frost in our deep valley in North Katoomba this morning & didn't start
> thawing until around 9 am in the shade!
> Why is it Katoomba's night temperatures are no where near as cold as everywhere else
> & what about Goulburn's night temperatures????? -8????
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Tony,
The Goulburn town site is in P{rogress St - about 3.5 kms from the
airport and higher than the Post Office.
Don W
Andrew Miskelly wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> I spend quite a bit of time at Goulburn Airport. As others have
> mentioned it is a very open, flat spot but also the AWS is right at the
> bottom of a gradual sort of hole, so ofcourse the cold air pools there.
> The place is also very well known for regular and long-lasting fog -
> quite ironic for an airport.
>
> You'll notice that Gouldburn AWS (Airport) temps constrast alot with
> Goulburn (PO I think) temps despite the fact that as the 'cessna' flies
> they're about 2 miles apart.
>
> Goulburn AWS is always the first station to go negative of a night in
> fine weather condidtions.
>
> Andrew.
>
> Tony Rance wrote:
> >
> > Very thick frost in our deep valley in North Katoomba this morning & didn't start
> > thawing until around 9 am in the shade!
> > Why is it Katoomba's night temperatures are no where near as cold as everywhere else
> > & what about Goulburn's night temperatures????? -8????
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Golly
That would make a beliver out of anybody!
Phil [the other]
>Great report.
>I remember the 1951 cold outbreak very well indeed.
>I was a kid living in Terang, Victoria.
>The night before the great snowfall, my mother read me a book about
>the "Little Match Girl" who died in the snow, and we discussed how Norway
>was a land of ice and snow.
>When it was time to say my prayers, I prayed that God would send us
>enough snow that Dad could build a snowman before he went to work in the
>morning. My Mum got awfully flustered about the prayer trying to shut me
>up because "it only snows in Norway, not here in Australia".
>Next morning, the whole town was covered in inches of snow and Dad made
>us a snowman before he went to work.
>According to the Terang Express, this was the first time since white
>settlement that snow had ever been recorded there, and as far as I know
>it has never been recorded again since.
>So now the question arises: did the prayer of a little boy who didn't
>know any better cause the great cold outbreak of 1951?
>
>Phil
><><
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>
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>Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:56:43 +0930
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: The great 1951 cold outbreak in SA
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Prepare yourself for winter by going to my new SA snow page at:
>>
>> http://www.cobweb.com.au/~paisley2/SnowWX.html
>>
>> The lead story is a look at reports from 'The Advertiser' regarding the
>> 2
>> [count em, 2] cold outbreaks of July 1951. The second one, on the
>> 20-21st
>> of July was truly extraordinary in many ways. Anyway, there are MSL
>> maps
>> to drool over and questions posed for commentary.
>>
>> Maybe this will get the ball rolling with reports from the east
>> regarding
>> this event.
>>
>> Enjoy, and I'll appreciate your feedback.....
>>
>> Phil
>>
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Don wrote:
> Tony,
> The Goulburn town site is in P{rogress St - about 3.5 kms from the
> airport and higher than the Post Office.
> Don W
and Andrew wrote:
> > You'll notice that Gouldburn AWS (Airport) temps constrast alot with
> > Goulburn (PO I think) temps despite the fact that as the 'cessna' flies
> > they're about 2 miles apart.
The distance is actually 7.5km. The Progress Street site is on a ridgetop in
northeastern Goulburn, while the AWS is, as Andrew says, in a classic frost
hollow well south of the built-up area. The two sites almost seem chosen to
represent the two extremes that can occur due to topography on a cold night.
Bombala is similar, with the Post Office site just above the Bombala River
flats, and the AWS about 11km (I think) south of town on a substantial
mountain top.
Laurier
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Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:47:39 +1000
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Hi Geoff.
Hope Jimmy will not wear out the tapes so I can get a look at the AGM in
August.Lets all here it for Jimmy and co Hip Hip Horay and so forth. regards
Clyve H
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> Hi all,
>
> Jimmy had even sworn his mother to secrecy but it just made me more
> suspicious when she said that Jimmy hadn't even mentioned anything about
> storms when he called!! Jimmy not mention the weather/storms???
>
> All who can make it should be at the Sydney meeting on 16th June when all
> will be revealed... that is the footage, photos, etc... not Jimmy and
David!
>
> Geoff Thurtell
>
> At 05:50 PM 3/06/01 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi everyone,
> > I have received word that our intrepid storm chasers
have
> >captured a couple of tornadoes in recent days while on the Oklahoma
plains
> >(I only hope they can bring them home!). No doubt we will hear more in
days
> >to come..
> >Paul G.
> >____________________
> >The Weather Company
> >Level 2, 7 West Street
> >North Sydney 2060
> >Phone: (02) 9955 7704
> >Fax: (02) 9955 1536
> >http://www.theweather.com.au
> >
>
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Subject: aus-wx: Tropo stuff.
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:59:49 +1000
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Hi tropo's.
Check out the massive area of cloud west of Papua NG, lots of embedded
CBs,although very poorly organised this region of cloud developed at the
north end of a major long wave mid lat trough a few days ago and has been
drifting westward very slowly. The only sign of organised upper flow is in
the northward moving outflow anvils over the eastern side of the cloud
mass.This area is worth watching to see if there is any interaction with
the approaching long wave trough now advancing/stalling over the western
half of Australia. regards Clyve H..
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Jimmy told me he bought 30 new pairs of underpants for the trip, he's
such an optimist :)
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>Hi Geoff.
>Hope Jimmy will not wear out the tapes so I can get a look at the AGM in
>August.Lets all here it for Jimmy and co Hip Hip Horay and so forth.
>regards
>Clyve H
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Hi Nick,
I have an EPSON GT-7000 USB scanner and have found it to be very good. I
also have a negative and slide film attachment for it so that I can scan
them.
Matthew Piper
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> Hey
>
> Thanks for the advice
>
> I have been doing some research and at this stage I am thinking of
> getting the Epson Perfection 640U, it's about $250. it has had some
> great reviews on the net.
>
> has anyone had experience with this scanner?
>
> Nick
>
> .................
>
> > I think a scanner's most important featurMost scanners have the
> > same resolution, and some are sharper than others,
> > but it comes down to how well they handle colour, and this affects
> > how well
> > they handle dark photos, light photos and over exposed shots.
> >
> > Most scanners that are $200 are pretty good. $400 will buy you a great
> > scanner. You might be able to afford a negative tray too (for the
> > purist at
> > heart).
> >
> > dann
> >
>
> ...................
> >
> > > The Canon d660u has a 35mm film attachment. I think I paid $280.
> > last> christmas for it . Its not pro quality but ok.I think the
> > guy at the place
> > > where I bought it did show me so better ones for around $400.
> > > regards
> > >
> > > dennis cottle
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From: "Jane ONeill"
To: "Aussie-wx"
Subject: aus-wx: ASWA on the BoM site
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:32:12 +1000
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Pretty impressive when the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
finds itself listed on the BoM website in amongst sites such as
universities, CSIRO, met services in various countries, WMO!!!!
http://www.bom.gov.au/library/metinfoext.shtml
This in the first 2 years...and so much more besides - interviews on
radio & TV, articles & displays, joint presentations with other
organisations.......! What will ASWA achieve in the next 2 years?
Jane
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ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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I personally think we should concentrate our efforts on building a weather
controlling machine to get rid of SDS in Australia once and for all.
Imagine the publicity that would create. "Lunatic weather watchers bring
tornado's and cricket ball hail to all capital cities in what is believed to
be an effort to bring Australia under their control."
Chris
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From: "Jane ONeill"
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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:32 PM
Subject: aus-wx: ASWA on the BoM site
> Pretty impressive when the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
> finds itself listed on the BoM website in amongst sites such as
> universities, CSIRO, met services in various countries, WMO!!!!
>
> http://www.bom.gov.au/library/metinfoext.shtml
>
> This in the first 2 years...and so much more besides - interviews on
> radio & TV, articles & displays, joint presentations with other
> organisations.......! What will ASWA achieve in the next 2 years?
>
> Jane
>
> --------------------------------
> Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
> Melbourne Storm Chasers
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
> ASWA - Victoria
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "Simon Angell"
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Subject: aus-wx: slow email sever RE: two questions
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:00:56 +1000
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Hi all
I sent a reply at 3:27am and ive only just recieved
it on my...
does this mean everyone on the list has only just
got it...
BTW it was -1.5 at the time of sending the
email.
Now it is about 11 degrees at 5:00
Simon Angell
Canberra ACT
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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:58:58 +1000
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Hi all..
In reply to Blair.
i noticed the other night when i got home from work at 12:15am it was -1.9
and then when i went to bed at 4:00am it was 8.9degrees. i noticed the cloud
had rolled in and had the typical purple sheen to it that i see often in
canberra. Most probably from the city lights.
Simon Angell
Canberra ACT
current temp is 8.5 degrees...
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I asked them to add a link last November and the librarian there was most
obliging.
If you have other key sites to recommend, use this email address:
library at bom.gov.au
regards, Michael
At 22:32 04/06/2001 +1000, you wrote:
>Pretty impressive when the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
>finds itself listed on the BoM website in amongst sites such as
>universities, CSIRO, met services in various countries, WMO!!!!
>
>http://www.bom.gov.au/library/metinfoext.shtml
>
>This in the first 2 years...and so much more besides - interviews on
>radio & TV, articles & displays, joint presentations with other
>organisations.......! What will ASWA achieve in the next 2 years?
>
>Jane
>
>--------------------------------
>Jane ONeill - Melbourne
>cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
>Melbourne Storm Chasers
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
>ASWA - Victoria
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "Michael Thompson"
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:20:45 +1000
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Must agree about Gulgong, if only they would build a shelter there. A nice
piece of lawn and a tree in the centre would not go astray.
What lookout do you refer to at Bowral ? Is it Mt Gibraltar.
I think that Razorback lookout at Picton is very good too, except you can
see right up north along the Blue Mountains, into Putty Road territory, I
get wanderlust everytime a see a nice cell up there. But my enthusiasm is
tempered by the knowledge of a mongrel drive through Sydney's west.
> Top 6 - 6) The lookout at Bowral (shelter) 5) The lookout at Goulburn
(shelter)
> 4) The lookout at Quirindi (shelter) 3) Rooty Hill (no shelter) 2) The
lookout
> at Gulgong (no shelter) 1) The open plains 100-200km or so north and
south of
> Moree.
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From: "Michael Thompson"
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:17:36 +1000
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Not to mention a 5-6km hike to get to Pigeon House. You are
right about the river valley, it is the only real flat land we have in the
Illawarra - South Coast that affords that flat land perspective that makes
storms look bigger and better.
Michael
Nowra Hill lookout. 30+ K in any direction, slightly less to the NNE,
little bit longer elsewhere. Jervis Bay and ocean, Shoalhaven River valley, Mt
Coolangatta & Cambewarra, Pidgeonhouse Mountain, HMAS Albatross, heaps more.
Only problem is, when your there, the storms aint.
Shaun
Nowra
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:13:11 +0800
From: "Phil Smith"
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: SDS
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Okay, so I have read all about lots of great places, most of which I can
remember visiting and being impressed with at one time or another, but
can somebody please tell me what SDS stands for?
Phil
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From: "Michael Thompson"
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:20:45 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: SDS
> Must agree about Gulgong, if only they would build a shelter there. A
> nice
> piece of lawn and a tree in the centre would not go astray.
>
> What lookout do you refer to at Bowral ? Is it Mt Gibraltar.
>
> I think that Razorback lookout at Picton is very good too, except you
> can
> see right up north along the Blue Mountains, into Putty Road territory,
> I
> get wanderlust everytime a see a nice cell up there. But my enthusiasm
> is
> tempered by the knowledge of a mongrel drive through Sydney's west.
>
>
> > Top 6 - 6) The lookout at Bowral (shelter) 5) The lookout at Goulburn
> (shelter)
> > 4) The lookout at Quirindi (shelter) 3) Rooty Hill (no shelter) 2)
> The
> lookout
> > at Gulgong (no shelter) 1) The open plains 100-200km or so north and
> south of
> > Moree.
> >
>
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:31:07 +0800
From: "Phil Smith"
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Simon, it arrived here in HK at 22:38 on 4/6/01 HKT (UTC +8:00). I guess
that means 00:38 on 5/6/01 in Eastern Australia.
This means it took 24 hours and 1 minute to get from your PC to my
mailbox.
I think the problem lies with your ISP, as my posts always come back
within 30 - 60 minutes. Once in a while I see it only 2 or 3 minutes
after posting, but that is rare. My mail server here only sends to and
receives from the Internet once every 10 minutes so that explains
anything up to a 20 minute delay on seeing my own posts. Assuming the
server at world.std.com has a similar setting, it would surprise me to
see it become less than about 20 minutes. I expect around 40 minutes to
be the norm.
But where your post has been wandering for a whole day, I dunno!
Phil
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From: "Simon Angell"
To:
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:38:05 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: test for my email server
> Hi all
> This is just a test...
> Over the last ferw days ive sent messages on Aussie WX and they havent
> gone through to you all and then been sent back to me... although the
> last one in the list is from me it was sent on 1/6/0...
> TIME NOW 12:37am
> DATE 4/6/01
>
> TESTTESTTESTTESTESTTESTTESTTESTTESTTEST................................
> ...............................
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From: "Keith Barnett"
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 12:05:29 +1000
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Can someone please tell me the website from which to download the program
that gets into the ASWA weather channel please..I lost it all in a recent
system crash and backup failure I had and can't recall the name...thanx
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From: "Lindsay Pearce"
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Subject: aus-wx: Balmy Weather continues for Central Tablelands
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 12:50:48 +1000
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Well, I'm sitting here in a short sleeved shirt as its 13 degrees! Quite
amazing for we folk in Blackheath. Maximums at my place so far for June are
9.5, 12, 13, 13 and even warmer at the Mt Boyce site. It usually gets warmer
there, than here, on sunny days. My temps compare well until mid-afternoon
on days like this, then the sun seems to push Mt Boyce AWS temps to 1 to 2
degrees above mine, as the site gets maximum afternoon sun. Curiously, on
overcast days, my site is almost always in agreeance with Mt Boyce.
Looks like it could get to 14C or more today. I have the back door open and
the sun is streaming in and it feels like March/April, not June. Even this
upcoming rain event looks mild and wet rather than cold or even cool.
Bummer. When will winter arrive?
Can't see anything drastic happening over the next week or two.
Cheers,
Lindsay Pearce
Blackheath, Central Tablelands of NSW
Email: violin at lisp.com.au
Blackheath Weather:
http://www.lisp.com.au/~violin/blackhth.htm
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From: "dann weatherhead"
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 12:49:38 +1000
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These are somewhat Sydney/NSW biased
so...
1) UWS at Werrington is a truly great place to be.
There is an elevated view to every direction plus fibre optic web access
:D
2) Rooty Hill--what can i say...
3) Singleton Hill lookout (don't know the
name)--having been to this hill twice and both times seeing a supercell from it
somewhat colours this lookout. Matt Smith and I were there a few years ago, when
a supercell 'popped' out of the haze. It was quite extraordinary
4) Camden Valley Way Rd --Not only a great rd
but dotted with great lookouts. You go from suburbia to country in a matter of
minutes.
5) Lake George lookout--federal highway NSW--Having
never used this as a storm lookout its a bit of a stetch putting this here but
it is trully an amazing place. It looks out on Lake George a massive dry lake
bed about 30 minutes from Canberra. I there just observing some dust whirls from
some vigorus westerlies on a recent trip to ACT. IT would be a great spot
to observe a storm floating east dropping ,CG's onto this massive plain.
dann
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: SDS / top 5
lookouts
Not to mention a 5-6km hike to get to Pigeon House. You are
right about the river valley, it is the only real flat land we have in the
Illawarra - South Coast that affords that flat land perspective that makes
storms look bigger and better.
Michael
Nowra Hill lookout. 30+ K in any direction, slightly less to the NNE,
little bit longer elsewhere. Jervis Bay and ocean, Shoalhaven River valley, Mt
Coolangatta & Cambewarra, Pidgeonhouse Mountain, HMAS Albatross, heaps
more. Only problem is, when your there, the storms aint.
Shaun
Nowra
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I presume you mean
http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
Keith Barnett wrote:
>
> Can someone please tell me the website from which to download the program
> that gets into the ASWA weather channel please..I lost it all in a recent
> system crash and backup failure I had and can't recall the name...thanx
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From: "John Woodbridge"
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:28:37 +1000
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Ah well it just goes to show. Here I am in Brisbane thinking that winter
had come early in mid May and wondering what on earth it was going to be
like by end of July. Extrapolating from the last few weeks in May, I had
guessed severe frosts & even sleet was possible. But the winds have finally
turned on shore again and hey presto - winter has taken a vacation. Really
nice the last few days with temps in mid 20's, humidity back to an
acceptable 60% or so, and mins around 12-13C.
Funny thing though, similar event happened last year and the entire winter
ended up being mild after some fridgid dry weather in May.
John.
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Subject: aus-wx: Balmy Weather continues for Central Tablelands
Well, I'm sitting here in a short sleeved shirt as its 13 degrees! Quite
amazing for we folk in Blackheath. Maximums at my place so far for June are
9.5, 12, 13, 13 and even warmer at the Mt Boyce site. It usually gets warmer
there, than here, on sunny days. My temps compare well until mid-afternoon
on days like this, then the sun seems to push Mt Boyce AWS temps to 1 to 2
degrees above mine, as the site gets maximum afternoon sun. Curiously, on
overcast days, my site is almost always in agreeance with Mt Boyce.
Looks like it could get to 14C or more today. I have the back door open and
the sun is streaming in and it feels like March/April, not June. Even this
upcoming rain event looks mild and wet rather than cold or even cool.
Bummer. When will winter arrive?
Can't see anything drastic happening over the next week or two.
Cheers,
Lindsay Pearce
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From: "Keith Barnett"
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:29:31 +1000
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If it was 13 in Sydney I think we'd call that pretty cold, but it's all to
do with acclimatisation I guess. Balmy in Sydney and about 17 at the moment
but anything under 20 and I'm more comfortable in longer 'woolies'. Warm in
the sun but cold in the shade.As for a mild change, I notice that even after
the predicted southwesterly goes through it's still expected to be 19 in
Sydney which is about 2 above normal. On a recent post I said something
about the high pressure systems tracking more northward but it was pretty
short lived and the next high is expected to settle over Victoria in a few
days..so more onshore 'stream' weather?
----- Original Message -----
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To:
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Subject: aus-wx: Balmy Weather continues for Central Tablelands
> Well, I'm sitting here in a short sleeved shirt as its 13 degrees! Quite
> amazing for we folk in Blackheath. Maximums at my place so far for June
are
> 9.5, 12, 13, 13 and even warmer at the Mt Boyce site. It usually gets
warmer
> there, than here, on sunny days. My temps compare well until mid-afternoon
> on days like this, then the sun seems to push Mt Boyce AWS temps to 1 to 2
> degrees above mine, as the site gets maximum afternoon sun. Curiously, on
> overcast days, my site is almost always in agreeance with Mt Boyce.
>
> Looks like it could get to 14C or more today. I have the back door open
and
> the sun is streaming in and it feels like March/April, not June. Even this
> upcoming rain event looks mild and wet rather than cold or even cool.
> Bummer. When will winter arrive?
>
> Can't see anything drastic happening over the next week or two.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lindsay Pearce
> Blackheath, Central Tablelands of NSW
> Email: violin at lisp.com.au
> Blackheath Weather:
> http://www.lisp.com.au/~violin/blackhth.htm
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No..the one ASWA people use on Wednesday nights especially..(or used to be
at least)..this'll teach me to keep better track of the things my PC will
try to get away with if I'm not more careful...
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To:
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> I presume you mean
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
>
> Keith Barnett wrote:
> >
> > Can someone please tell me the website from which to download the
program
> > that gets into the ASWA weather channel please..I lost it all in a
recent
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As for my top 5 lookouts in no particular
order....
1. Mt Dandenong.....Melbourne, Victoria. My first
severe storm was observed from here back at the start of 1999 and boy what a
storm it was.
2. Anywhere due W as far as the border around to the NE
also as far as the border from Bendigo in NW Victoria. After travelling
50,000km across Australia chasing I must say this area has one of the best road
networks (cept for the far far W and NW of Vic) as well as the flattest, best
viewing countryside.
3. Mt Wycheproof, Wycheproof Victoria - in the
abovementioned area (in #2). Kevin would know this one well and although
becoming slightly overgrown, it would be simply AWESOME to watch storms from up
here at night - it is one of the only hills in the area for a hundred
kilometres.
4. Flirtation Hill - Gulgong, NSW - given the terrain in
the area it is an awesome lookout and the storms can be great too - a perfect
loacation for starting a chase day as you can see in all directions and decide
where the best storms are.
5. Who'da Thought It Lookout - Quirindi, NSW - once
again given the terrain the views are awesome. I spent on evening with a
bunch of fellow TDU chasers up here in December and we watched a 3 hour
lightning show while eating pizza from the local pizza shop. It has a
cleverly built shelter which you can be protected from most weather, it has
grass, toilets (i think) and also a playground for the kids. A minor
downfall is that its the highest point around and the mobile phone towers would
be very susceptible to lightning as would the radio tower a further
50m away so it could be quite dangerous during a thunderstorm (but so can
anywhere i guess).
(i may as well keep going).
6. I think its the same lookout that Dann mentioned in
Singleton, NSW. I also spent some time here on TDU and it is very
very good although there are quite a few trees so finding a really clear patch
involves wandering around between the trees (snakes could be a worry
here). It has toilets, plenty of grass to play cricket on while waiting
for the cap to break, it has tables for picnics and i think it also has
swings.
7. Fire Lookout Tower - Kangaroo Ground, Victoria.
This tower gives awesome 360 degree views and is in an OK spot for starting a
chase or just watching storms from. I think its only open during daylight
hours though due to vandalism and other factors (associated with the local
hooligans).
That will do me for now.
If anyone wants more details on where to find these places
just send me a private email.
Regards,
Andrew McDonald
7.
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http://www.mirc.co.uk
Go to Austnet server, then join #weather
dann
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> No..the one ASWA people use on Wednesday nights especially..(or used to be
> at least)..this'll teach me to keep better track of the things my PC will
> try to get away with if I'm not more careful...
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>
>
> > I presume you mean
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
> >
> > Keith Barnett wrote:
> > >
> > > Can someone please tell me the website from which to download the
> program
> > > that gets into the ASWA weather channel please..I lost it all in a
> recent
> > > system crash and backup failure I had and can't recall the
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Hi Keith,
It's not an ASWA (or affiliated) room - it's open to the general public,
and you can access it using any IRC software client (Pirch, mIRC etc),
and you can connect to the Austnet server (usually they have a list of
servers in the IRC client), but you can use the command
/server au.austnet.org
to get you in.
The chat room is called #Weather (/join #Weather)
AC
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>
> No..the one ASWA people use on Wednesday nights especially..(or used to be
> at least)..this'll teach me to keep better track of the things my PC will
> try to get away with if I'm not more careful...
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:06 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather chat
>
> > I presume you mean
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
> >
> > Keith Barnett wrote:
> > >
> > > Can someone please tell me the website from which to download the
> program
> > > that gets into the ASWA weather channel please..I lost it all in a
> recent
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Sorry, I misunderstood. I guess you must mean the ASWA committee chat
channel which you can log onto with mIRC, which you can download from
http://www.mirc.com/
Cheers
PC
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> try to get away with if I'm not more careful...
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To:
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> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather chat
>
> > I presume you mean
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
> >
> > Keith Barnett wrote:
> > >
> > > Can someone please tell me the website from which to download the
> program
> > > that gets into the ASWA weather channel please..I lost it all in a
> recent
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> No..the one ASWA people use on Wednesday nights especially..(or used to be
> at least)..this'll teach me to keep better track of the things my PC will
> try to get away with if I'm not more careful...
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To:
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>
> > I presume you mean
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
> >
> > Keith Barnett wrote:
> > >
> > > Can someone please tell me the website from which to download the
> program
> > > that gets into the ASWA weather channel please..I lost it all in a
> recent
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From: David Jones
To: "old AUSSIE WX (E-mail)"
Subject: aus-wx: interesting?
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:12:27 +1000
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>Looks like it could get to 14C or more today. I have the back door open and
>the sun is streaming in and it feels like March/April, not June. Even this
>upcoming rain event looks mild and wet rather than cold or even cool.
>Bummer. When will winter arrive?
>
>Can't see anything drastic happening over the next week or two.
What can I say Lindsay.. I guess it depends on your definition. Any weather
beside sunny with a light wind is interesting in Melbourne at the moment.
I am quietly optimistic that much of SE Australia will get a major rain
situation, but with the progs - well - looking so down-right weird one can't
be certain. One thing that has caught my eye with the approaching system is
the very high dew points which are starting to show up over much of
southern/central Australia - widely 11-15C. I doubt this system will be a
flooding event (the baroclinicity across the system is relatively modest),
but it looks like it could provide the first substantial rain over most of
Victoria and western NSW for 3+months. BTW, also noticed that the thickness
over northern South Australia are going to be marginal for snow/sleet on the
higher peak (thickness ~544gpdm) - pity "no" one will be there to observe
anything.
Hope I haven't jinxed it...
Cheers,
David.
>Cheers,
>
>Lindsay Pearce
Dr David Jones
Climate Analysis Section
National Climate Centre
Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678
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Keith,
You can download mIRC from http://www.mirc.co.uk
I think the JAVA chat is on the Karratha Weather page, but I can't remember
the URL for that
PaulY
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No..the one ASWA people use on Wednesday nights especially..(or used to be
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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather chat
> I presume you mean
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
>
> Keith Barnett wrote:
> >
> > Can someone please tell me the website from which to download the
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> > that gets into the ASWA weather channel please..I lost it all in a
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Thanks Dann...that was it!
----- Original Message -----
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> http://www.mirc.co.uk
> Go to Austnet server, then join #weather
>
> dann
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To:
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>
>
> > No..the one ASWA people use on Wednesday nights especially..(or used to
be
> > at least)..this'll teach me to keep better track of the things my PC
will
> > try to get away with if I'm not more careful...
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Peter Creswick
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather chat
> >
> >
> > > I presume you mean
> > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
> > >
> > > Keith Barnett wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Can someone please tell me the website from which to download the
> > program
> > > > that gets into the ASWA weather channel please..I lost it all in a
> > recent
> > > > system crash and backup failure I had and can't recall the
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> > > >
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Hi all
Well boy am I surprised. I've just noticed it fairly dark to the
northwest, and checking the Melbourne local radar shows some precip coming
our way. Although, it remains to be seen how much of this is actually
reaching the ground. However, places to the northwest, like Bendigo, have
reported 1mm of rain.
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And Woomera radar was looking interesting showing a rainbow of
colours until it stopped updating about an hour ago :-(
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Yes, I should say that a significant rain event is fantastic for those that
need it. Its perhaps a bit selfish of me to be annoyed about the "Warm"
weather we are having early winter and the warmness of the approaching front
when much of south western NSW and Victoria etc, is desperate for rain.
I rebuke myself . Still, I do want some cold weather eventually. :)
Lindsay Pearce
Blackheath, Central Tablelands of NSW
Email: violin at lisp.com.au
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From: "David Jones"
To: "old AUSSIE WX (E-mail)"
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:12 PM
Subject: aus-wx: interesting?
>
> >Looks like it could get to 14C or more today. I have the back door open
and
> >the sun is streaming in and it feels like March/April, not June. Even
this
> >upcoming rain event looks mild and wet rather than cold or even cool.
> >Bummer. When will winter arrive?
> >
> >Can't see anything drastic happening over the next week or two.
>
> What can I say Lindsay.. I guess it depends on your definition. Any
weather
> beside sunny with a light wind is interesting in Melbourne at the moment.
>
> I am quietly optimistic that much of SE Australia will get a major rain
> situation, but with the progs - well - looking so down-right weird one
can't
> be certain. One thing that has caught my eye with the approaching system
is
> the very high dew points which are starting to show up over much of
> southern/central Australia - widely 11-15C. I doubt this system will be a
> flooding event (the baroclinicity across the system is relatively modest),
> but it looks like it could provide the first substantial rain over most of
> Victoria and western NSW for 3+months. BTW, also noticed that the
thickness
> over northern South Australia are going to be marginal for snow/sleet on
the
> higher peak (thickness ~544gpdm) - pity "no" one will be there to observe
> anything.
>
> Hope I haven't jinxed it...
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> David.
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:26:33 +1000
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Hi all,
Must admit that I concur with the Brisbaneites on the recent weather.
Although it is currently (1600EST) a balmy 20 plus here in Proserpine, in
the last two weeks our recorded minimum has been as low as 4.6, and many
farmers report temps down to 3. Also had three (light) patchy frosts which I
consider a bit unusual, and the pasture shows the effects.
Not really looking forward to "winter" !!!
Bill,
in a mild, windy (25kn SE) and showery (11.5mm over 5 days) Proserpine -
where big highs down south usually mean showers up here.
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 16:41:39 +1000
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Hi all!
As John pointed out earlier - it's been quite warm recently for winter.
Past few days I've been registering max temps around 24-25C, at 11am at
work I was recording a temp of 25C - but it hovered around that all day
(assuming that the cool, moist E to SE'ly wind kept the temps down, as
well as some nice coastal CJ's).
Yesterday there was some very nice TCU to the SSE of Toowoomba, and
today there were some convective showers over the ranges! For those who
know about SE QLD's climate, it is 'famous' for it's horrible dry,
windy, cold (~20C max) days during winter, when highs push through
giving strong SW'lies. This is them broken up by SE'lies that generally
keep max temps similar, but keep mins up). Why are the maxes up with
the SE'lies though? It really is a pseudo-E'ly, the winds are coming
along on a 1500km+ E'ly fetch across the Coral sea, and just dipping
into a trough a few hundred kilometres off the coast that is causing the
winds to come to us from the SE. As this front and trough moves across
slowly, we'll get some NE'lies, and possibly even warmer mins and
maxes! Depending on cloud, we could see some places knocking 27C in a
few days time. Cloud will be the main factor, there is a chance we
could get bogged under mid to high cloud as a NW jet heads our way. As
the jet strengthens in response to the cold pool pushing through, it
could produce a deeper cloud band. This would be good for those down
south, but perhaps not so good for us SE QLD'ers. Especially if we are
to have a chance of storms over the weekend, we won't want any cloud!
Interesting situation though - I knew that it would get warmer when I
went out and bought a replacement heater for an older heater that broke
down just over a week ago!
Meanwhile - this warm blooded Brisbanite is enjoying the warm
temperatures! In particular the much 'friendlier' mins.
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Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the
Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
(07) 3390 4812
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Yep... from Canberra's perspective even some clouds will be nice...
Have to say I am suffering WDS (weather deprivation syndrome) - it is like
SDS but much more severe. I missed the last 1mm downpour by being in
Melbourne at the time - despite (or because of) buying an umbrella, I
managed to avoid any rain at all :(
Lake George is not supposed to be a dust pan - it generally does have water
in it... (with some exceptions I won't go into in this post)
The sad story is told here...
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/rainfall_1month.shtml
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/rainfall_3month.shtml
Hopefully the progged rainband looks like it is going to target the areas
that need it most. My only concern is it doesn't fizz as it moves east.
A hopeful Patrick
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Been bloody warm here too,
Yesterday breezed past 20 right up to almost 24! That's gotta be something
that only happens a few times a century in June I suspect. Today felt warm
too - certainly over 20. Some nice congestus piling up now so it looks
like we are in for a dump, although a decent cold snap still seems a remote
event.
In a tee shirt - Phil
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From: "John Woodbridge"
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Hi Anthony,
There have indeed been some nice TCu around, particularly last Friday when I
spotted a very nice mid level cone shaped funnel and long thin "rope".
Regrettably I was in a colleagues car careering down the Western Freeway
with no camera to hand. :(
John.
>snip
Hi all!
As John pointed out earlier - it's been quite warm recently for winter.
Past few days I've been registering max temps around 24-25C, at 11am at
work I was recording a temp of 25C - but it hovered around that all day
(assuming that the cool, moist E to SE'ly wind kept the temps down, as
well as some nice coastal CJ's).
Yesterday there was some very nice TCU to the SSE of Toowoomba..
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:02:15 +1000
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Lindsay,
I think Wednesday and Thursday will be noticably mild too. The forecast
thickness values on the models are quite high, dipping down from the
north as they do in summer. Depending on the humidity and the amount of
rain we get, it could be decidedly muggy - not what people like us are
interested in June!
Andrew.
Lindsay Pearce wrote:
>
> Well, I'm sitting here in a short sleeved shirt as its 13 degrees! Quite
> amazing for we folk in Blackheath. Maximums at my place so far for June are
> 9.5, 12, 13, 13 and even warmer at the Mt Boyce site. It usually gets warmer
> there, than here, on sunny days. My temps compare well until mid-afternoon
> on days like this, then the sun seems to push Mt Boyce AWS temps to 1 to 2
> degrees above mine, as the site gets maximum afternoon sun. Curiously, on
> overcast days, my site is almost always in agreeance with Mt Boyce.
>
> Looks like it could get to 14C or more today. I have the back door open and
> the sun is streaming in and it feels like March/April, not June. Even this
> upcoming rain event looks mild and wet rather than cold or even cool.
> Bummer. When will winter arrive?
>
> Can't see anything drastic happening over the next week or two.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lindsay Pearce
> Blackheath, Central Tablelands of NSW
> Email: violin at lisp.com.au
> Blackheath Weather:
> http://www.lisp.com.au/~violin/blackhth.htm
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From: "McDonald"
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Hi all,
According to Rob Gel on CH9 weather tonight, the maximum temp of 20.9C in
Melbourne was the warmest June day since 1957.
Some of the climo's out there might be able to confirm this one.
Regards,
Andrew McDonald
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> Lindsay,
>
> I think Wednesday and Thursday will be noticably mild too. The forecast
> thickness values on the models are quite high, dipping down from the
> north as they do in summer. Depending on the humidity and the amount of
> rain we get, it could be decidedly muggy - not what people like us are
> interested in June!
>
> Andrew.
>
>
> Lindsay Pearce wrote:
> >
> > Well, I'm sitting here in a short sleeved shirt as its 13 degrees! Quite
> > amazing for we folk in Blackheath. Maximums at my place so far for June
are
> > 9.5, 12, 13, 13 and even warmer at the Mt Boyce site. It usually gets
warmer
> > there, than here, on sunny days. My temps compare well until
mid-afternoon
> > on days like this, then the sun seems to push Mt Boyce AWS temps to 1 to
2
> > degrees above mine, as the site gets maximum afternoon sun. Curiously,
on
> > overcast days, my site is almost always in agreeance with Mt Boyce.
> >
> > Looks like it could get to 14C or more today. I have the back door open
and
> > the sun is streaming in and it feels like March/April, not June. Even
this
> > upcoming rain event looks mild and wet rather than cold or even cool.
> > Bummer. When will winter arrive?
> >
> > Can't see anything drastic happening over the next week or two.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Lindsay Pearce
> > Blackheath, Central Tablelands of NSW
> > Email: violin at lisp.com.au
> > Blackheath Weather:
> > http://www.lisp.com.au/~violin/blackhth.htm
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From: "Simon Clarke"
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Anthony
I agree almost warm and balmy today in SEQ. But the law of averages tends to
suggest that things will correct things soon. After a bit of a warm spell,
there is usually an equally aggressive cold spell to even things up. However
I can't quite see it happening just yet.(I'm still think a genuine ECL is
not too far off, followed by a genuine cold outbreak - time will tell)
Regards
Simon
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Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:41 PM
Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD Wx - Who Turned the Sun Back On?
> Hi all!
>
> As John pointed out earlier - it's been quite warm recently for winter.
> Past few days I've been registering max temps around 24-25C, at 11am at
> work I was recording a temp of 25C - but it hovered around that all day
> (assuming that the cool, moist E to SE'ly wind kept the temps down, as
> well as some nice coastal CJ's).
>
> Yesterday there was some very nice TCU to the SSE of Toowoomba, and
> today there were some convective showers over the ranges! For those who
> know about SE QLD's climate, it is 'famous' for it's horrible dry,
> windy, cold (~20C max) days during winter, when highs push through
> giving strong SW'lies. This is them broken up by SE'lies that generally
> keep max temps similar, but keep mins up). Why are the maxes up with
> the SE'lies though? It really is a pseudo-E'ly, the winds are coming
> along on a 1500km+ E'ly fetch across the Coral sea, and just dipping
> into a trough a few hundred kilometres off the coast that is causing the
> winds to come to us from the SE. As this front and trough moves across
> slowly, we'll get some NE'lies, and possibly even warmer mins and
> maxes! Depending on cloud, we could see some places knocking 27C in a
> few days time. Cloud will be the main factor, there is a chance we
> could get bogged under mid to high cloud as a NW jet heads our way. As
> the jet strengthens in response to the cold pool pushing through, it
> could produce a deeper cloud band. This would be good for those down
> south, but perhaps not so good for us SE QLD'ers. Especially if we are
> to have a chance of storms over the weekend, we won't want any cloud!
>
> Interesting situation though - I knew that it would get warmer when I
> went out and bought a replacement heater for an older heater that broke
> down just over a week ago!
>
> Meanwhile - this warm blooded Brisbanite is enjoying the warm
> temperatures! In particular the much 'friendlier' mins.
> --
> Anthony Cornelius
> Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the
> Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
> (07) 3390 4812
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: Blair Trewin
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Balmy Weather continues for Melbourne
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> Hi all,
>
> According to Rob Gel on CH9 weather tonight, the maximum temp of 20.9C in
> Melbourne was the warmest June day since 1957.
>
> Some of the climo's out there might be able to confirm this one.
>
Spot on.
Blair
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hehehehehehe...
as usual just as I email a response I get the good oil! :((
Thanx Blair.
Just thought I saw a 21+ mentioned in the spot in the Herald-Sun with
records...
(maybe it says something about the Herald-Sun) :))
Kevin.
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>Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:00:24 +1000 (EST)
>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > According to Rob Gel on CH9 weather tonight, the maximum temp of 20.9C
>in
> > Melbourne was the warmest June day since 1957.
> >
> > Some of the climo's out there might be able to confirm this one.
> >
>
>Spot on.
>
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 19:15:32 +1000
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Hi every1,
I'm starting to get VERRY nervous about my websites as they're all "free"
servers. In recent weeks, most have been down for quite extended periods and
some won't accept any uploads at all. In the last month I've had to remove
all of my storage data from "free" servers and now the provider for may main
webpage is "undergoing exteneded maintenance".
I'm certainly not whingeing about getting space for nothing but feel it only
prudent to tell people that I suspect that many free servers are in the act
of folding and may well lose all data therein...
I hope I'm just being my usual pessimistic self, but I'm sure there are many
on the list who use these providers and wondered if anybody else has had
these problems?
SDS = Storm Deprivation Syndrome. A condition whereby the sufferer thinks
that fog is the chase coming to them.
Macca: 20.9 sounds low even for Melbourne in June.
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Hi all
A nice picture showing the action in northern SA:
http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/AA21077.gif
with just a bit of lightning associated with it:
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/weatherzone-latest/SA_Lightning.jpg
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From: "Bussie"
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Going back to "natures" signs and not worrying about the electronic stuff
:-)
Could our higher than normal ground temps combined with a bit of moisture
possibly bring some storms?????
For Vic anyway.
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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> Lindsay,
>
> I think Wednesday and Thursday will be noticably mild too. The forecast
> thickness values on the models are quite high, dipping down from the
> north as they do in summer. Depending on the humidity and the amount of
> rain we get, it could be decidedly muggy - not what people like us are
> interested in June!
>
> Andrew.
>
>
> Lindsay Pearce wrote:
> >
> > Well, I'm sitting here in a short sleeved shirt as its 13 degrees! Quite
> > amazing for we folk in Blackheath. Maximums at my place so far for June
are
> > 9.5, 12, 13, 13 and even warmer at the Mt Boyce site. It usually gets
warmer
> > there, than here, on sunny days. My temps compare well until
mid-afternoon
> > on days like this, then the sun seems to push Mt Boyce AWS temps to 1 to
2
> > degrees above mine, as the site gets maximum afternoon sun. Curiously,
on
> > overcast days, my site is almost always in agreeance with Mt Boyce.
> >
> > Looks like it could get to 14C or more today. I have the back door open
and
> > the sun is streaming in and it feels like March/April, not June. Even
this
> > upcoming rain event looks mild and wet rather than cold or even cool.
> > Bummer. When will winter arrive?
> >
> > Can't see anything drastic happening over the next week or two.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Lindsay Pearce
> > Blackheath, Central Tablelands of NSW
> > Email: violin at lisp.com.au
> > Blackheath Weather:
> > http://www.lisp.com.au/~violin/blackhth.htm
> >
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:48:05 +1000
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Hi Robert.
You may have noticed how the developing 'lee wave' today south of the divide
increased in density as what appears to have been a passage of a short wave
mid level trough this afternoon. It was interesting to see the progressive
thickening of this mid level cloud prior to 1400hrs and then to see most of
this mid level development undergo glaciation.I got 12mm here at Leopold,
looking good for the next few days... regards Clyve H.
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>
> Hi all
>
> Well boy am I surprised. I've just noticed it fairly dark to the
> northwest, and checking the Melbourne local radar shows some precip coming
> our way. Although, it remains to be seen how much of this is actually
> reaching the ground. However, places to the northwest, like Bendigo, have
> reported 1mm of rain.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> --
>
> Robert A. Goler
>
> E-mail Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au
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>
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Hi all.
One would have to be forgiven if your interpretation of the sat pic for the
Australian region especially the fringing tropics as being closer to summer
than June, but has anybody noticed (apart from the very nice and active semi
cut off over SA) the huge amount of tropical moisture lurking north of a mid
latitude long wave trough west of Australia. A similar tropical moisture
plume has been affecting the central Pacific for the past two weeks, worth
keeping a close look..regards Clyve Herbert.
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Hi Phil.
In May 1979 I was running the 0100 Geelong to Warrnambool overnight goods
(midnight horror as it was known).The forecast was for a colder southwest
change reaching Melbourne in the early hours, I think it was the 31st of May
(set me right please Blair).After grinding all the way from Geelong to
Camperdown with a less than healthy 1952 vintage B class diesel loco,steady
rain with northwest winds (gale force) gave way to hail and then snow.We
staggered into Camperdown for a shunt in blinding hail and snow,also snow
pellets and the ground very white,by this time about 0430hrs the wind had
shifted to the south west and the temp was about 0c. However the best was
yet to come after leaving Camperdown our train entered a rare and unusual
landscape with what I can only describe as near blizzard conditions and
waves of heavy snow showers and in places the snow was blowing along like
sea spray. We arrived at Terang about 0500hrs and shunted the yard with so
much snow on the ground you couldn't see the top of the rails,after leaving
Terang the snow petered out and rapidly became thinner on the ground
approaching Garvoc,with no more snow after that.. I loved it. regards Clyve
Herbert.
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: The great 1951 cold outbreak in SA
> Great report.
> I remember the 1951 cold outbreak very well indeed.
> I was a kid living in Terang, Victoria.
> The night before the great snowfall, my mother read me a book about
> the "Little Match Girl" who died in the snow, and we discussed how Norway
> was a land of ice and snow.
> When it was time to say my prayers, I prayed that God would send us
> enough snow that Dad could build a snowman before he went to work in the
> morning. My Mum got awfully flustered about the prayer trying to shut me
> up because "it only snows in Norway, not here in Australia".
> Next morning, the whole town was covered in inches of snow and Dad made
> us a snowman before he went to work.
> According to the Terang Express, this was the first time since white
> settlement that snow had ever been recorded there, and as far as I know
> it has never been recorded again since.
> So now the question arises: did the prayer of a little boy who didn't
> know any better cause the great cold outbreak of 1951?
>
> Phil
> <><
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>
>
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> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:56:43 +0930
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: The great 1951 cold outbreak in SA
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > Prepare yourself for winter by going to my new SA snow page at:
> >
> > http://www.cobweb.com.au/~paisley2/SnowWX.html
> >
> > The lead story is a look at reports from 'The Advertiser' regarding the
> > 2
> > [count em, 2] cold outbreaks of July 1951. The second one, on the
> > 20-21st
> > of July was truly extraordinary in many ways. Anyway, there are MSL
> > maps
> > to drool over and questions posed for commentary.
> >
> > Maybe this will get the ball rolling with reports from the east
> > regarding
> > this event.
> >
> > Enjoy, and I'll appreciate your feedback.....
> >
> > Phil
> >
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Anyone care to tell us what's happening in Adelaide at the moment? The
radar is quite spectacular...but pales into insignificance when compared
with the Woomera radar which has gone absolutely crazy!
Andrew.
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Heavy rain started here in Adelaide soon after 9pm.
Just a couple of rumbles here and there.
At Newton we have had 15mm in the 3 hrs since, Kent Town 17mm.
Roxby Downs/Olympic Dam probably the pick at this stage with over 30mm
since 9pm from those storms on Woomera radar. (all those lovely
colours!!)
Tim.
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>Anyone care to tell us what's happening in Adelaide at the moment?
The
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compared
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8mm recorded out here between Noon and Midnight
PaulY
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Hi Robert.
You may have noticed how the developing 'lee wave' today south of the divide
increased in density as what appears to have been a passage of a short wave
mid level trough this afternoon. It was interesting to see the progressive
thickening of this mid level cloud prior to 1400hrs and then to see most of
this mid level development undergo glaciation.I got 12mm here at Leopold,
looking good for the next few days... regards Clyve H.
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>
> Hi all
>
> Well boy am I surprised. I've just noticed it fairly dark to the
> northwest, and checking the Melbourne local radar shows some precip coming
> our way. Although, it remains to be seen how much of this is actually
> reaching the ground. However, places to the northwest, like Bendigo, have
> reported 1mm of rain.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> --
>
> Robert A. Goler
>
> E-mail Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au
> http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/
>
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> Clayton, Vic 3800
> Australia
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The spectacular radar seems to be for real, though I think some of the pink
stuff could be raised dust -- Woomera was reporting 33km/h wind gusting
44km/h at 11.30pm. Roxby Downs had 27.8mm between 10pm and midnight, and
many other falls in the 10 to 30mm range between 6pm and midnight across the
western 3/4 of the state. An enormous area of yellow and pink has entered
the top of the Adelaide broadscale radar and should be arriving in Port
Augusta around now (1am EST) -- if it maintains intensity and keeps on its
current trajectory, Adelaide could have an interesting time around dawn.
Something interesting may have happened at Coober Pedy -- the AWS reports in
the past few hours are:
TIME DATE TIME WIND TEMP DEW BARO
|RAIN ----- ----- ----- --- | VIS
utc local locl DIR/SPD GST POINT METER |since past past since
|
(km/h) (qnh) |09.00 10 hour last
obs |
| mins mm
min |
1000 20010605 2000 30/ 22 25 14.8 14.8 1011.1 | 3.6 0.0 0.0 0.0
60 |
1100 20010605 2100 40/ 13 14 14.8 14.8 1011.0 | 4.0 0.0 0.4 0.4
60 |
1150 20010605 2150 40/ 24 40 14.4 14.4 1011.3 | 9.6 5.6 0.0 5.6
50 |
1200 20010605 2200 30/ 25 38 14.4 14.4 1011.5 | 10.6 1.0 6.6 1.0
10 |
1400 20010606 0000 290/ 27 38 13.3 11.5 1012.1 | 0.0
|
The missing ob for 2300, followed by loss of rainfall data is interesting,
suggesting a power outage. Meanwhile, Woomera has also lost its rain obs:
1230 20010605 2230 30/ 14 18 15.2 13.8 1012.2 | 5.4 0.0 0.0 0.0
30 |10.0*
1300 20010605 2300 10/ 22 31 15.6 14.1 1012.8 | 5.8 0.2 0.4 0.4
30 |10.0*
1330 20010605 2330 10/ 33 44 15.9 15.0 1013.1 | 8.2 1.0 2.8 2.4
30 | 6.0*
1400 20010606 0000 20/ 18 27 15.0 14.3 1012.1 | 0.0 0.8 0.0 0.0
30 | 9.0*
Farther south, Minlaton has had 19.8mm since 8pm, Edithburgh 15.2 mostly
since 9pm, Parafield and Edinburgh RAAF both 16.6 since 9.30, the Bureau at
Kent Town 16mm since 9pm -- all totals to midnight. The rain map since 9am
for Adelaide at http://www.bom.gov.au/hydro/flood/sa/sa_metro.shtml is worth
a look, as is the rain map since 9am for all SA at
http://www.bom.gov.au/hydro/flood/sa/index.shtml, although it's a bit far
between gauges.
Laurier
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I also have a Canon 620 and I like its small light weight. I note that it
does not scan matt photos or magazine articles as well as the glossy
pictures, nor as well as a previous scanner. However if photos is the only
use , yes I would recommend.
The whole issue of slide/film attachments is a minefield. If inbuilt to a
cheap scanner they are not very effective.
A proper film scanner starts at $800 and goes up from there. You would not
believe how tricky film scanning negatives is. Slides scan OK as across
brand like Fuji, Koda, Kodak, etc a slide is the finished product and
colours are final. However negative film varies slightly from brand to
brand. The process lab actually treats each film brand slightly different to
each other when developing prints. When you scan negatives you yourself have
to make the colour adjustments and I have heard this can be tricky.
One final point - I now actually think digital cameras have come to a point
that for web photos they are superior. Colour saturation with most modern
ones is excellent. I would serious look at a digital. For magazine work and
posters the traditional film is still in front.
Michael
>
> I have just purchased an SLR and I am now looking for a scanner to go
> with it.
>
> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good one to buy. I dont
> want to spend too much, no more than $400.
>
> Should I go for one with one of those film scanner attachments, or will
> i get the results i'm after with just a normal flatbed??
>
> My main purpose is to use the images on the web, so i'm guessing a
> super resolution is not a big concern, am i right??
>
> feed back would be great
>
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It must have looked spectacular crossing the trestle near Boorcan.
Well, I shall have to amend my story for all future tellings.
I remember the midnight horror like an old friend - when I was a little
kid (primary school days) I would head off down to the station around
04:40 every morning, as most of the drivers would let me ride on the
footplate while shunting was going on. I used to love the big A2 class
engines the best. Later they were replaced by the J class.
Shortly after the midnight horror left Terang the "Paper Train" (express
goods - loco, two or three vans and a guard's van) would come through.
Sometimes the midnight horror would be late and the Paper Train would fly
through first.
I'm well off the topic of weather now, so I'd better stop rambling on!
Thanks Clive for bringing back the memories...
Phil
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:18:54 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: The great 1951 cold outbreak in SA
> Hi Phil.
> In May 1979 I was running the 0100 Geelong to Warrnambool overnight
> goods
> (midnight horror as it was known).The forecast was for a colder
> southwest
> change reaching Melbourne in the early hours, I think it was the 31st
> of May
> (set me right please Blair).After grinding all the way from Geelong to
> Camperdown with a less than healthy 1952 vintage B class diesel
> loco,steady
> rain with northwest winds (gale force) gave way to hail and then
> snow.We
> staggered into Camperdown for a shunt in blinding hail and snow,also
> snow
> pellets and the ground very white,by this time about 0430hrs the wind
> had
> shifted to the south west and the temp was about 0c. However the best
> was
> yet to come after leaving Camperdown our train entered a rare and
> unusual
> landscape with what I can only describe as near blizzard conditions and
> waves of heavy snow showers and in places the snow was blowing along
> like
> sea spray. We arrived at Terang about 0500hrs and shunted the yard with
> so
> much snow on the ground you couldn't see the top of the rails,after
> leaving
> Terang the snow petered out and rapidly became thinner on the ground
> approaching Garvoc,with no more snow after that.. I loved it. regards
> Clyve
> Herbert.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Smith
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 10:53 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: The great 1951 cold outbreak in SA
>
>
> > Great report.
> > I remember the 1951 cold outbreak very well indeed.
> > I was a kid living in Terang, Victoria.
> > The night before the great snowfall, my mother read me a book about
> > the "Little Match Girl" who died in the snow, and we discussed how
> Norway
> > was a land of ice and snow.
> > When it was time to say my prayers, I prayed that God would send us
> > enough snow that Dad could build a snowman before he went to work in
> the
> > morning. My Mum got awfully flustered about the prayer trying to
> shut me
> > up because "it only snows in Norway, not here in Australia".
> > Next morning, the whole town was covered in inches of snow and Dad
> made
> > us a snowman before he went to work.
> > According to the Terang Express, this was the first time since white
> > settlement that snow had ever been recorded there, and as far as I
> know
> > it has never been recorded again since.
> > So now the question arises: did the prayer of a little boy who
> didn't
> > know any better cause the great cold outbreak of 1951?
> >
> > Phil
> > <><
> > International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk
> > Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672
> >
> >
> >
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> > From: Phil Bagust
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:56:43 +0930
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The great 1951 cold outbreak in SA
> >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > Prepare yourself for winter by going to my new SA snow page at:
> > >
> > > http://www.cobweb.com.au/~paisley2/SnowWX.html
> > >
> > > The lead story is a look at reports from 'The Advertiser' regarding
> the
> > > 2
> > > [count em, 2] cold outbreaks of July 1951. The second one, on the
> > > 20-21st
> > > of July was truly extraordinary in many ways. Anyway, there are
> MSL
> > > maps
> > > to drool over and questions posed for commentary.
> > >
> > > Maybe this will get the ball rolling with reports from the east
> > > regarding
> > > this event.
> > >
> > > Enjoy, and I'll appreciate your feedback.....
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > >
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>
> hehehehehehe...
>
> as usual just as I email a response I get the good oil! :((
>
> Thanx Blair.
>
> Just thought I saw a 21+ mentioned in the spot in the Herald-Sun with
> records...
>
> (maybe it says something about the Herald-Sun) :))
>
> Kevin.
>
Not impossible, depending on which day you were looking at.
There have been 24 days of 20 or above in the 147-year Melbourne
record, and 7 of 21 or above. 7 of the 24 20+ days (including 5 of the
7 21+ days, and the June record of 22.4 on the 2nd) were the seven
successive days 2-8 June 1957.
There are three very clear standouts for June-July warm spells in
southeastern Australia; early June, 1957, early July, 1994,
and late July, 1975. 2001 isn't quite in that league, but it's still
probably a once-a-decade event.
A particularly interesting aspect of the 1957 spell (carrying on from
May) was the consistent occurrence of very large diurnal ranges in
Canberra (something we've seen to a lesser extent in the last few
weeks). The 2-8 June week saw records set, both of which still stand
(as of 1030 this morning!), for Canberra's highest June maximum and
lowest minimum. This followed a May with a mean minimum of -2.7, the
second-lowest on record for any month and 5.8 degrees below normal.
Blair
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From: "Dean McWhinney"
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:22:39 +1000
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being a newby to weather and stuff why was the fog so thick in sydney this
morning???
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From: "John Woodbridge"
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Hi Blair,
If GASP is to be believed the current mild spell for SE QLD will continue
for at least another week, with Highs staying well south and a ridge north
of NZ.
Meanwhile the folks in Perth are freezing with close to record mins...
Balmy or Barmy us that???
John
>snip
Not impossible, depending on which day you were looking at.
There have been 24 days of 20 or above in the 147-year Melbourne
record, and 7 of 21 or above. 7 of the 24 20+ days (including 5 of the
7 21+ days, and the June record of 22.4 on the 2nd) were the seven
successive days 2-8 June 1957.
There are three very clear standouts for June-July warm spells in
southeastern Australia; early June, 1957, early July, 1994,
and late July, 1975. 2001 isn't quite in that league, but it's still
probably a once-a-decade event.
A particularly interesting aspect of the 1957 spell (carrying on from
May) was the consistent occurrence of very large diurnal ranges in
Canberra (something we've seen to a lesser extent in the last few
weeks). The 2-8 June week saw records set, both of which still stand
(as of 1030 this morning!), for Canberra's highest June maximum and
lowest minimum. This followed a May with a mean minimum of -2.7, the
second-lowest on record for any month and 5.8 degrees below normal.
Blair
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Hi everyone,
Just a quick email to see what other people think
about the potential for severe storms in SA this arvo (more specifically the
Yorke Peninsula and Adelaide area). Shear is fairly nice (actually -
pretty awesome - see below) and I have no doubt about the instability in the
area after yesterday and looking at today's sat pics and surface obs. WV
shows a nice dry slot sliding over the trough (currently looks to be on the W
side of the Spencer Gulf and as it moves across the gulf it should pick up some
extra moisture too. Maybe something to keep an eye on.
Also of note is the Ceduna radar. The centre
of the low can be seen quite clearly on it.
Anyway. Let's hope this lot drifts over Vic
as rain (with the odd storm thrown in as well).
BTW - the shear over the above mentioned part of
SA.....
WIND:
2000
5000
7000 10000
14000
18500
(ft a.s.l.)
020/35 010/30 360/30 360/35
MS01 350/40 MS08 350/50 MS18
(direction/speed in knts) (MS01= -1C)
Regards,
Andrew McDonald
From: David Findlay
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:35:02 +1000
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I am creating a Cloud Indentification Chart for Australia. I have one from
ages ago but it was made in the USA so the directions and winds stuff is
wrong for the Southern Hemisphere. So I am creating one for Australia.
It will be distributed under the GNU Documentation Liscense -
http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html
I am looking for images of all types of clouds from cirrus to cumulonumbus
and wall clouds,etc. Small thumbnail images will be used in a table on the
chart with a small description underneath. If you have any images you would
like me to include, please read the above liscense. This liscense would allow
any group to reproduce copies of the document, or even charge for them as
long as the liscense is passed along with it. The GNU FDL will be on the back
of the page. It will be an A3 size sheet of paper. All images used will have
to have permission to be used under the FDL. Only a thumbnail will be used
however, so your full-size image is safe.
I think this will be a good way for people to learn a bit more about weather.
Thanks,
David
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How's this for a nice visible sat pic, showing the cells over northern SA
casting shadows on the lower cloud deck:
http://207.133.112.37/cgi-bin/show.pl?sat+aust+vis+auvis20011562224.jpg
Cheers
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From: David Findlay
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Could anyone point me to that joke page again? I think it was on the Sydney
Storm Chasers page. I can't find it now.
David
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>Hi Phil.
>In May 1979 I was running the 0100 Geelong to Warrnambool overnight goods
>(midnight horror as it was known).The forecast was for a colder southwest
>change reaching Melbourne in the early hours, I think it was the 31st of May
>(set me right please Blair).After grinding all the way from Geelong to
>Camperdown with a less than healthy 1952 vintage B class diesel loco,steady
>rain with northwest winds (gale force) gave way to hail and then snow.We
>staggered into Camperdown for a shunt in blinding hail and snow,also snow
>pellets and the ground very white,by this time about 0430hrs the wind had
>shifted to the south west and the temp was about 0c. However the best was
>yet to come after leaving Camperdown our train entered a rare and unusual
>landscape with what I can only describe as near blizzard conditions and
>waves of heavy snow showers and in places the snow was blowing along like
>sea spray. We arrived at Terang about 0500hrs and shunted the yard with so
>much snow on the ground you couldn't see the top of the rails,after leaving
>Terang the snow petered out and rapidly became thinner on the ground
>approaching Garvoc,with no more snow after that.. I loved it. regards Clyve
>Herbert.
Wow!
What altitude are Camperdown and Terang Clyve?
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From: Blair Trewin
Subject: Re: aus-wx: The great 1951 cold outbreak in SA
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>
> Hi Phil.
> In May 1979 I was running the 0100 Geelong to Warrnambool overnight goods
> (midnight horror as it was known).The forecast was for a colder southwest
> change reaching Melbourne in the early hours, I think it was the 31st of May
> (set me right please Blair).After grinding all the way from Geelong to
> Camperdown with a less than healthy 1952 vintage B class diesel loco,steady
> rain with northwest winds (gale force) gave way to hail and then snow.We
> staggered into Camperdown for a shunt in blinding hail and snow,also snow
> pellets and the ground very white,by this time about 0430hrs the wind had
> shifted to the south west and the temp was about 0c. However the best was
> yet to come after leaving Camperdown our train entered a rare and unusual
> landscape with what I can only describe as near blizzard conditions and
> waves of heavy snow showers and in places the snow was blowing along like
> sea spray. We arrived at Terang about 0500hrs and shunted the yard with so
> much snow on the ground you couldn't see the top of the rails,after leaving
> Terang the snow petered out and rapidly became thinner on the ground
> approaching Garvoc,with no more snow after that.. I loved it. regards Clyve
> Herbert.
This sounds like 1977, not 1979 - there was certainly an exceptional
cold outbreak on 31 May 1977 (probably slightly ahead of 27-28 May
2000 as the outstanding May cold outbreak of the last 100 years).
Blair
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> Hi everyone, Just a quick email to see what other people think
>about the potential for severe storms in SA this arvo (more specifically
>the Yorke Peninsula and Adelaide area). Shear is fairly nice (actually -
>pretty awesome - see below) and I have no doubt about the instability in
>the area after yesterday and looking at today's sat pics and surface
>obs. WV shows a nice dry slot sliding over the trough (currently looks
>to be on the W side of the Spencer Gulf and as it moves across the gulf
>it should pick up some extra moisture too. Maybe something to keep an
>eye on. Also of note is the Ceduna radar. The centre of the low can be
>seen quite clearly on it. Anyway. Let's hope this lot drifts over Vic
>as rain (with the odd storm thrown in as well). BTW - the shear over the
>above mentioned part of SA..... WIND:
> 2000 5000 7000 10000 14000
>18500 (ft a.s.l.)
> 020/35 010/30 360/30 360/35 MS01 350/40 MS08 350/50 MS18
> (direction/speed in knts) (MS01= -1C) Regards, Andrew McDonald
Interesting,
I was at the beach earlier and could see a beautiful 'trail' of sunlit
congestus anchored over the Yorke peninsula - but in this northerly there's
no way it was going to head over Adelaide!
A very strange day here so far, mild [19 degrees] under heavy mid level
cloud with faster moving lower level scud. Some evidence of wave
formations in the mid levels. After last night's quite heavy rain [a few
rumbles of thunder but nothing else] hardly a drop today.
Phil
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:34:50 +1000
From: Andrew Miskelly
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I didn't know there was anything all that special about May 27/28 last
year! It didn't seem in the exceptional category to me - we barely even
saw any snow on my part of the Southern Tablelands apart from a few
showers.
It was a little bit interesting because of the cold pool that brought
brief snow to Canberra and other places as it moved north but that's not
as nearly as 'exceptional' as alot of other stories from last century.
Andrew.
Blair Trewin wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Phil.
> > In May 1979 I was running the 0100 Geelong to Warrnambool overnight goods
> > (midnight horror as it was known).The forecast was for a colder southwest
> > change reaching Melbourne in the early hours, I think it was the 31st of May
> > (set me right please Blair).After grinding all the way from Geelong to
> > Camperdown with a less than healthy 1952 vintage B class diesel loco,steady
> > rain with northwest winds (gale force) gave way to hail and then snow.We
> > staggered into Camperdown for a shunt in blinding hail and snow,also snow
> > pellets and the ground very white,by this time about 0430hrs the wind had
> > shifted to the south west and the temp was about 0c. However the best was
> > yet to come after leaving Camperdown our train entered a rare and unusual
> > landscape with what I can only describe as near blizzard conditions and
> > waves of heavy snow showers and in places the snow was blowing along like
> > sea spray. We arrived at Terang about 0500hrs and shunted the yard with so
> > much snow on the ground you couldn't see the top of the rails,after leaving
> > Terang the snow petered out and rapidly became thinner on the ground
> > approaching Garvoc,with no more snow after that.. I loved it. regards Clyve
> > Herbert.
>
> This sounds like 1977, not 1979 - there was certainly an exceptional
> cold outbreak on 31 May 1977 (probably slightly ahead of 27-28 May
> 2000 as the outstanding May cold outbreak of the last 100 years).
>
> Blair
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Hey all
Check the Adelaide local loop! Now that I'm home from the beach what's
that tny blob of pink growing just off the city coastline! looks black
from St peters but my view west isn't great. Dow'p!
Martin, are you online? Look out of your back window!!!!
Also another rainband amplifying to the north. Could get interesting!
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:53:49 +1000
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Phil,
Radar showed a nice line of pinks on the Yorke Peninsula for about an hour
this afternoon.
Radar to your N is just starting to look interesting.
(perhaps more luck on my part than anything though)
Regards,
Andrew McDonald
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> > Hi everyone, Just a quick email to see what other people think
> >about the potential for severe storms in SA this arvo (more specifically
> >the Yorke Peninsula and Adelaide area). Shear is fairly nice
(actually -
> >pretty awesome - see below) and I have no doubt about the instability in
> >the area after yesterday and looking at today's sat pics and surface
> >obs. WV shows a nice dry slot sliding over the trough (currently looks
> >to be on the W side of the Spencer Gulf and as it moves across the gulf
> >it should pick up some extra moisture too. Maybe something to keep an
> >eye on. Also of note is the Ceduna radar. The centre of the low can
be
> >seen quite clearly on it. Anyway. Let's hope this lot drifts over Vic
> >as rain (with the odd storm thrown in as well). BTW - the shear over
the
> >above mentioned part of SA..... WIND:
> > 2000 5000 7000 10000 14000
> >18500 (ft a.s.l.)
> > 020/35 010/30 360/30 360/35 MS01 350/40 MS08 350/50 MS18
> > (direction/speed in knts) (MS01= -1C) Regards, Andrew McDonald
>
>
> Interesting,
>
> I was at the beach earlier and could see a beautiful 'trail' of sunlit
> congestus anchored over the Yorke peninsula - but in this northerly
there's
> no way it was going to head over Adelaide!
>
> A very strange day here so far, mild [19 degrees] under heavy mid level
> cloud with faster moving lower level scud. Some evidence of wave
> formations in the mid levels. After last night's quite heavy rain [a few
> rumbles of thunder but nothing else] hardly a drop today.
>
> Phil
>
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:49:53 +1000
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G'day Andrew,
It certainly was pretty exceptional for May, if I understand it. The snow
we had here was fantastic! Sure, not a massive dump (around 8 to 10cm) but I
think I recorded snow over four straight days in that outbreak and Oberon
(to the south) had over 40cm in that outbreak, too. Oberon had a day where
its temp range was -3 to -1 or thereabouts and that day saw -2.5 as a min
and 0.8 as a max at my place, so it was pretty decent up our way. Also, the
extent of the outbreak was pretty far reaching too.
Mind you, locals have told me that if you go back to the 50's and 60's there
were plenty of times the falls were better than the year 2000, as a whole.
Especially July (around 18/19th) of 1965, I think. 40cm here in the upper
mountains, they say, and numerous times to compare reasonably well to that
during these decades as well.
Anyway, Huey, give us snowies some cold! I might have to move to Fairbanks,
Alaska. :(
Lindsay Pearce
Blackheath, Central Tablelands of NSW
Email: violin at lisp.com.au
Blackheath Weather:
http://www.lisp.com.au/~violin/blackhth.htm
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> I didn't know there was anything all that special about May 27/28 last
> year! It didn't seem in the exceptional category to me - we barely even
> saw any snow on my part of the Southern Tablelands apart from a few
> showers.
>
> It was a little bit interesting because of the cold pool that brought
> brief snow to Canberra and other places as it moved north but that's not
> as nearly as 'exceptional' as alot of other stories from last century.
>
> Andrew.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:29:10 +1000
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Sorry, of course, the heading should have read "May 2000, exceptional?" not
2001.
Lindsay Pearce
Blackheath, Central Tablelands of NSW
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:35:26 +1000
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I know this is a pretty lame animation but it makes it look like the low is
stationary in the bite and just spinning and going nowhere. BTW not a drop
of rain or even a hint of it as yet. :-(
http://www.abc.net.au/news/weather/default.htm
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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From: "Jane ONeill"
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:10:28 +1000
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'Road rules humour' can be found here....
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour2000.htm
and details of the 'Stormchasers' mobile phone' can be found here
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour2001.htm
and the original humour page is at
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour.htm
Enjoy!
Jane
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We had a weather documentary on TV in New
Zealand tonight which featured the Sydney 1999 hail storm.
Michael Thompson was featured. No doubt you will
have seen this on Australian TV. This seems to be
Australias most famous storm. I know of two other
storms of similar magnitude to hit Metro Sydney.
January 1991 and I have a Bureau weather bulletin
that documents cricket ball size hail wiping out
surfers at Bondi in January 1947. No doubt there
are many others. I guess it would be fair to say that
such supercells are becoming more
common.
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Hi Blair et al,
I distinctly remember the May 31, 1977 cold outbreak...I was in my Year 11
Geography class in Bendigo when everyone went to the window (on the second
floor of Bendigo High School) and wondered what the hell the funny flakes
were! First (and only) time I've ever seen snow!
Never settled however...melted as it hit the ground.
Cheers,
Kevin (now) from Wycheproof.
P.S. 10 mm. till 10.20 p.m. today.
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>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:23:17 +1000 (EST)
>
> >
> > Hi Phil.
> > In May 1979 I was running the 0100 Geelong to Warrnambool overnight
>goods
> > (midnight horror as it was known).The forecast was for a colder
>southwest
> > change reaching Melbourne in the early hours, I think it was the 31st of
>May
> > (set me right please Blair).After grinding all the way from Geelong to
> > Camperdown with a less than healthy 1952 vintage B class diesel
>loco,steady
> > rain with northwest winds (gale force) gave way to hail and then snow.We
> > staggered into Camperdown for a shunt in blinding hail and snow,also
>snow
> > pellets and the ground very white,by this time about 0430hrs the wind
>had
> > shifted to the south west and the temp was about 0c. However the best
>was
> > yet to come after leaving Camperdown our train entered a rare and
>unusual
> > landscape with what I can only describe as near blizzard conditions and
> > waves of heavy snow showers and in places the snow was blowing along
>like
> > sea spray. We arrived at Terang about 0500hrs and shunted the yard with
>so
> > much snow on the ground you couldn't see the top of the rails,after
>leaving
> > Terang the snow petered out and rapidly became thinner on the ground
> > approaching Garvoc,with no more snow after that.. I loved it. regards
>Clyve
> > Herbert.
>
>This sounds like 1977, not 1979 - there was certainly an exceptional
>cold outbreak on 31 May 1977 (probably slightly ahead of 27-28 May
>2000 as the outstanding May cold outbreak of the last 100 years).
>
>Blair
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Well, I must say that the low affecting SA is looking quite pretty in the
satellite pictures. Check out this one from NOAA AVHRR taken at
16:15 EST today.
http://www.rss.dola.wa.gov.au/noaaql/2001/JUN/06/M16_3635ql.jpg
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Hey all,
Just a quick note...rainfalls between Midnight Tuesday night and Midnight
Wednesday night were 18mm.
This brings the total to 26mm so far, which should give farmers around here
some hope of planting crops soon. Lets just hope we get another 20mm...that
should make most happy :o) Also put some much needed water in our storages
*Fingers crossed*
PaulY
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Hi all,
Just a quick summary of rainfalls I have had in the last couple of days.
Tuesday we had 19mm
Wednesday we had 26.2mm (in 1 hour)
and in the gauge right now I have 3mm (since midnight)
Not a bad drop!
Rainfalls taken from a Nylex 1000 Rain Gauge.
Observations taken from Paralowie SA.
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Or try the Weather Folklore and Wit page
http:/members.aol.com/Accustiver/wxworld_folk.html
Its dreadful !
Don White
Jane ONeill wrote:
>
> 'Road rules humour' can be found here....
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour2000.htm
>
> and details of the 'Stormchasers' mobile phone' can be found here
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour2001.htm
>
> and the original humour page is at
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour.htm
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Jane
>
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Hi all
For all us QLDer's that have SDS BIG TIME, there seems to be some small
relief on the way. But it looks as it will not have a significant affect on
coastal areas at the moment as it is forecast to stay South QLD and weaken
on Sat.
If last nights TWC lightning tracker is anything to go by, it will be a
great system as that band of lightning had us QLDer's drooling and wishing
we were out there. And never mind about trying to see anything on radar, cos
there is none.
I am interested to see what affect it will have on SE QLD later tomorrow and
Sat. Will it l9ive up to expectations?
Here's the QLD extended outlook
Hopefully, BRING IT ON ( i just want some lightning photos)
Adam
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QUEENSLAND WEATHER FORECAST
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EXTENDED OUTLOOK
The firm coastal ridge will relax on Friday, particularly along the southern
coast, as the Tasman Sea high moves eastwards and is replaced by frontal
activity over the weekend. In the meantime moist onshore winds will continue
to
bring scattered to isolated showers onto the east coast and adjacent inland.
The
deep low pressure system over the Great Australian Bight will be slow moving
today then begin to decay from Friday. The band of rain and scattered
thunderstorms linked to the low will move slowly eastwards across the
southern
and central interior during today and Friday before weakening over
south-east
parts of the State on Saturday. Some moderate falls of rain are likely in
the
south due to the slow nature of its movement. It should be cloudy over the
tropical interior again today with possible isolated showers. Overnight
temperatures will remain well average due to the moist airmass and cloud
cover.
Daytime temperatures will be also be mostly above average but will fall well
below average when thick cloud cover dominates. In the longer term, a new
high
will move into the Tasman Sea on Sunday with showers limited to the
northeast
tropical coast only and fine weather over the rest of the state. Another
rain
band is likely to form over Central Australia during Sunday and we may see
the
eastern limit of this rain move into far western Queensland on Tuesday.
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On Wednesday 06 June 2001 19:10, you wrote:
> 'Road rules humour' can be found here....
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour2000.htm
>
> and details of the 'Stormchasers' mobile phone' can be found here
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour2001.htm
>
> and the original humour page is at
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour.htm
I have seen photos somewhere of a non-TT tornado that picked up a cow. Also I
have seen a video somewhere of a Tornado that seemed to disapate without
going all that much ropy.
David
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Hi every1,
For those that haven't seen this photo, it's well worth the effort to have a
look!
http://207.133.112.37/cgi-bin/show.pl?sat+aust+vis+auvis20011570424.jpg
Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.
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Morning all,
It was very very nice to wake up to a sky full of
CB's in Melbourne and they continue to pulse off to the NW.
Apart from that, Melbourne recorded its highest
June minimum on record last night if rumors prove to be true. I'm not 100%
sure but I think the old record was 14.8C and last night's min in Melbourne was
a HOT 17.4C - smashing the previous record by 2.6C.
The climo's may like to confirm this too
(please).
Also of note is the nice rainfall in the W and NW
of the state with many stations out there recording between 10-20mm in the 24hrs
to 9am today. On top of the 5-10mm they had the previous day, this should
prove to be very valuable rain out that way where it has been exceptionally dry
in recent times.
More showers and thunderstorms possible in
Melbourne this mornining and this afternoon.
Regards,
Andrew McDonald
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very nice.
Amazing what a tight centre it has. Would be interesting to be at ground
zero at that point. You would surely have to see clouds out to the horizon
slowly circulating around you.
John.
>snip
Hi every1,
For those that haven't seen this photo, it's well worth the effort to have a
look!
http://207.133.112.37/cgi-bin/show.pl?sat+aust+vis+auvis20011570424.jpg
Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.
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Hi All.
>Hi every1,
>
>For those that haven't seen this photo, it's well worth the effort to have a
>look!
>
>http://207.133.112.37/cgi-bin/show.pl?sat+aust+vis+auvis20011570424.jpg
>
>Cheers,
>Kevin from Wycheproof.
For a multispectral colour view (VIS red - IR green - WV blue) of this
system at 12:30pm AEST yesterday go to:
http://users.ace-net.com.au/~carls/ImagesTemp/au_vis+ir+wv_200106060231.jpg
I will leave it there for a couple of days.
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> Morning all,
>
> It was very very nice to wake up to a sky full of CB's in Melbourne and =
> they continue to pulse off to the NW. =20
>
> Apart from that, Melbourne recorded its highest June minimum on record =
> last night if rumors prove to be true. I'm not 100% sure but I think =
> the old record was 14.8C and last night's min in Melbourne was a HOT =
> 17.4C - smashing the previous record by 2.6C. =20
>
> The climo's may like to confirm this too (please).
>
The overnight minimum was 17.4; the 24-hour minimum was 16.1 (the
0900 reset value from yesterday). Both are records by substantial
margins; the previous 24-hour record was 14.8 on 8 June 1995, whilst
the previous overnight record was 15.something (can't remember
exactly but I think it was 15.5) on the same day.
It's the sixth monthly high minimum record to be broken or equalled
in Melbourne in my seven years here:
January 1997
June 1995, then 2001
September 1999
December 1994, equalled in 1998
Blair
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I am intrigued by some of the radar images I saw yesterday (or was it the day before?) of storms over northern south Australia. Unfortunately I don't have the ability to save the image or the loop, but I think Laurier may have referred to it in one of his posts. Since I have been following the radar, with its various shades of green, pink and red, I have never seen so much red and pink in one area. Laurier speculated that it may have been due to dust storms However the radar image I saw had red and pink virtually covering Lake Torrens. Who knows it may have been a salt storm!?
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>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:53:49 +1000
>
>Phil,
>
>Radar showed a nice line of pinks on the Yorke Peninsula for about an hour
>this afternoon.
>
>Radar to your N is just starting to look interesting.
>
>(perhaps more luck on my part than anything though)
>
>Regards,
>
>Andrew McDonald
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> > > Hi everyone, Just a quick email to see what other people think
> > >about the potential for severe storms in SA this arvo (more specifically
> > >the Yorke Peninsula and Adelaide area). Shear is fairly nice
>(actually -
> > >pretty awesome - see below) and I have no doubt about the instability in
> > >the area after yesterday and looking at today's sat pics and surface
> > >obs. WV shows a nice dry slot sliding over the trough (currently looks
> > >to be on the W side of the Spencer Gulf and as it moves across the gulf
> > >it should pick up some extra moisture too. Maybe something to keep an
> > >eye on. Also of note is the Ceduna radar. The centre of the low can
>be
> > >seen quite clearly on it. Anyway. Let's hope this lot drifts over Vic
> > >as rain (with the odd storm thrown in as well). BTW - the shear over
>the
> > >above mentioned part of SA..... WIND:
> > > 2000 5000 7000 10000 14000
> > >18500 (ft a.s.l.)
> > > 020/35 010/30 360/30 360/35 MS01 350/40 MS08 350/50 MS18
> > > (direction/speed in knts) (MS01= -1C) Regards, Andrew McDonald
> >
> >
> > Interesting,
> >
> > I was at the beach earlier and could see a beautiful 'trail' of sunlit
> > congestus anchored over the Yorke peninsula - but in this northerly
>there's
> > no way it was going to head over Adelaide!
> >
> > A very strange day here so far, mild [19 degrees] under heavy mid level
> > cloud with faster moving lower level scud. Some evidence of wave
> > formations in the mid levels. After last night's quite heavy rain [a few
> > rumbles of thunder but nothing else] hardly a drop today.
> >
> > Phil
> >
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BoM used to have a radar at Cobar years ago. Took it out because it
was under used apparently, and put it somewhere else, up north if I
remember correctly. Bet they are wishing they had one there now, or
even better, how about putting one at Birdsville to fill in the "radar
hole" at the state corners.
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Hi All,
Please note new email address: gregf5 at iprimus.com.au, this replaces
gbrowning at tpg.com.au
Bye,
Greg Browning.
Mulgrave,
S.E. Melbourne
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Have a look at Cobar's radiosonde trace from 9am local at
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/reg/IDS65024/IDS65024.94711.shtml
Data:
PW 31.6mm (rain)
TT 49 (total totals)
Expected Lifted parcel at T max (say 2 - 3 pm)
Ps 987hpa (surface pressure)
Ts 24.3 C (surface temp)
Ds 11.6 C (surface dewpoint)
Plcl 818hpa (parcel lifted condensation level)
Tlcl 8.8 C (parcel condensation level temp)
LI -1.3C
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From: "Keith Barnett"
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Satpic!
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 18:15:21 +1000
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Thanks for that Kevin..I've added this to my bookmarks. Just think what
weather we'd get if the depression moved northeast towards southern Qld...
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Subject: aus-wx: Satpic!
> Hi every1,
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> For those that haven't seen this photo, it's well worth the effort to have
a
> look!
>
> http://207.133.112.37/cgi-bin/show.pl?sat+aust+vis+auvis20011570424.jpg
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> Cheers,
> Kevin from Wycheproof.
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 19:17:58 +1000
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From: steve baynham
Subject: aus-wx: australian images
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hi all,
nasa sent me this url. some nice imagery of happenings in parts of oz.
some real nice clear shots. couldn't find any storm images, though. but
still worth a squiz.
http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/Countries/Australia/
cyas
Steve Baynham
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "Ben Tichborne"
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Subject: aus-wx: Interesting weather in SE WA
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:56:37 +1200
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Seems like a mean and cold southerly outbreak has been lashing a certain
area of Australia over the last few days. But I doubt that anyone on this
mailing list lives in the Eucla SE WA area of the Nullarbor. Then again I
believe hardly anyone at all lives in that area at all - I passed through
the region last year, and I remember about one roadhouse every 100 or 200
km. So some very interesting weather is probably going unnoticed - I heard
the recent forecasts were for thunder, hail, and severe squalls in the
Eucla. I don't think any land there rises more than about 100 metres, plus
the latitude is closer to the equator than Adelaide - snow is most probably
out the question.
Another cold southerly change here in Christchurch, but a pretty weak one
at that - no rain here yet, but showers visible (on the radar) not too far
away. A beefier, (but relatively brief) outbreak is forecast is predicted
for the weekend.
Ben
Christchurch
NZ
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From: "Bussie"
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Subject: aus-wx: Humour
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:57:58 +1000
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If it's zero degrees outside today and it's supposed to be twice as cold
tomorrow, how cold is it going to be?
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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From: "Anthony Spierings"
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:19:10 +1000
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Hello All,
Wow.
Now, could someone explain to me in simple(ton) terms what I am looking at?
Regards,
Anthony Spierings
Hi every1,
For those that haven't seen this photo, it's well worth the effort to have a
look!
http://207.133.112.37/cgi-bin/show.pl?sat+aust+vis+auvis20011570424.jpg
Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.
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From: "Lindsay Pearce"
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:41:33 +1000
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About 16 degrees fahrenheit. That is, half of 32F :)
Lindsay Pearce
Blackheath, Central Tablelands of NSW
Email: violin at lisp.com.au
Blackheath Weather:
http://www.lisp.com.au/~violin/blackhth.htm
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> If it's zero degrees outside today and it's supposed to be twice as cold
> tomorrow, how cold is it going to be?
> Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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From: "Jane ONeill"
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Subject: aus-wx: Cloud band shearing
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:49:46 +1000
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Notice the cloud band shearing over Victoria atm, part of what was the
inflow to the low west of Mt Gambier is now being dragged away to the SE
by the subtropical jet.
http://207.133.112.37/cgi-bin/show.pl?sat+aust+wv+auwv20011581024.jpg
Pretty obvious why the low's starting to weaken!! but keep your eyes on
the area to the west of WA - that area of cloud & lower pressure in the
Indian Ocean off the Geraldton area has been almost stationary for the
best part of a week........and there's some very cold air coming up
behind it.
Jane
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